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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
You are right, I mis-remembered. It was 2012 when I put my Arcam DV137 in the loft on getting an Oppo 95. And although my 26" Sony 16:9 TV at the time (also now in the loft) had a 1366 x 768 panel I was never able to get it to display the 768p output from my DV137. Ignore anything I said about...- Owen Smith
- Post #32
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Most HD-Ready TVs actually had 1280x768 displays. My Arcam DV137 DVD-Audio/Video upscaling player had an option to set 768p as the output video format to get 1:1 pixel display on 768p HD Ready TVs.- Owen Smith
- Post #28
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Oh wow, proper information about the audio and video codecs in use. I don't get that on any of my devices.- Owen Smith
- Post #24
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
That's a category of device I did not know existed. I was aware of HD Ready, but are you sure that means it has an MPEG4 decoder? My understanding was HD Ready just meant 1280x768 or similar screen resolution, ie more than SD but not 1920x1080 and not with DVB-T2. I always understood MPEG4...- Owen Smith
- Post #21
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
The orange filter has been off for so long I can't remember when I did it. The display on my oldest and most used box is now unreadable in standby and barely readable when in use even in a darkened room.- Owen Smith
- Post #14
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Yes but can it display the video and play the audio? But can it still play all the other channels on the multiplex? If so I suspect the powers that be will be happy with that. What they don't want is to prevent a load of people watching ITV1 SD and C4 SD.- Owen Smith
- Post #19
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
In some designs. I can believe there are designs where firmware gets in the way and screws up in some situations, for example unexpected codecs in a DVB-T multiplex. Again in some designs.- Owen Smith
- Post #16
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I must have been more tired than I thought last night. Re-checking the receipts, the oldest one from John Lewis is from November 2010 and the Grade A from Humax was bought in 2014. These dates match your release date article.- Owen Smith
- Post #11
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Has anyone been able to test an HD Fox T2 with this change? Mine is in Yorkshire in use by my parents on their bedroom TV. Annoyingly that TV is a 1080p 24" Sony made long after DVB-T2 existed but it doesn't support it, hence the HD Fox T2. Ofcom mandating DVB-T2 in TVs would also have prevented...- Owen Smith
- Post #12
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I have some dates. The failed HDR Fox T2 was a Grade A bought from Humax in 2012. Meanwhile the brand new one I bought from John Lewis in 2008 some 17 years ago and I use more is still working fine. Both are still on the original hard discs. The display on the one still working is rather dim, I...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
I've changed job several times since the place I could have asked and got references to specs. But why would you use DVB-T given its less efficient use of bandwidth? If they're going to start broadcasting channels that can't be played by DVB-T only equipment due to AVC/AAC, why not go the whole...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Just retuned my HDR Fox T2 and on selecting channel 71 I get That's TV 3 and as expected my home cinema amp says the sound is Dolby Digital 2.0. Double checked and channel 3 ITV1 says LPCM 2.0 whereas channel 103 ITV1 HD says Dolby Digital 2.0. All as expected, That's TV 3 has AAC audio so I...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Reads to me like it already rolled out. Audio set to multi channel should show it, AAC is converted to Dolby Digital for multi channel capability even if it is only actually in stereo eg ITV1 HD. MPEG audio used by std def is converted to LPCM.- Owen Smith
- Post #5
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Linked article says: "However, broadcasters may hope the change does remain unnoticed. That would indicate that there are sufficiently small numbers of incompatible TVs and set-top-boxes around to warrant considering switching other services across." No, that would indicate very few people are...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
They're not supposed to do that on DVB-T muxes. If they want to do that the correct way is to convert an entire mux to DVB-T2. We have standards for a reason. As for "anything DVB-T2 capable will be fine" - not necessarily. Those codecs are not supposed to be used on DVB-T and I can easily see...- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Not sure. I'd expect NAND since it's running embedded Linux, but it's not certain. I'd have to lookup the chips online.- Owen Smith
- Post #8
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
It doesn't boot sufficiently to either flush or reload firmware. Or at least I assume it doesn't since it is on "START SYSTEM". The firmware is stored in Flash on the HDR Fox T2, as it is in almost everything these days. E2PROM is largely obsolete and generally is used for saving settings on...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
The large 16V capacitor closest to the 4R7 inductor in the photo below only has 0.89V across it, that feels unlikely for a 16V part. The cpu heatsink gets hot so the cpu is powered.- Owen Smith
- Post #4
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Recordings on the hard disc aren't a concern by the way. I have them all auto decrypting so they should be usable with another main board, and if not it's only telly and I have an Apple TV 4K for catchup. I prefer to use the HDR Fox T2 because I get 5.1 sound on some BBC and C4 programmes...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I've checked the power supply outputs with a multimeter and they all measure as expected based on what is printed on the power supply PCB next to the connector. 5.8V measures as about 6.4V and 12V measures about 12.3V. Feels like a main board issue, is there anything I can check there?- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
You are right, I mis-remembered. It was 2012 when I put my Arcam DV137 in the loft on getting an Oppo 95. And although my 26" Sony 16:9 TV at the time (also now in the loft) had a 1366 x 768 panel I was never able to get it to display the 768p output from my DV137. Ignore anything I said about...- Owen Smith
- Post #32
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Most HD-Ready TVs actually had 1280x768 displays. My Arcam DV137 DVD-Audio/Video upscaling player had an option to set 768p as the output video format to get 1:1 pixel display on 768p HD Ready TVs.- Owen Smith
- Post #28
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Oh wow, proper information about the audio and video codecs in use. I don't get that on any of my devices.- Owen Smith
- Post #24
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
That's a category of device I did not know existed. I was aware of HD Ready, but are you sure that means it has an MPEG4 decoder? My understanding was HD Ready just meant 1280x768 or similar screen resolution, ie more than SD but not 1920x1080 and not with DVB-T2. I always understood MPEG4...- Owen Smith
- Post #21
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
The orange filter has been off for so long I can't remember when I did it. The display on my oldest and most used box is now unreadable in standby and barely readable when in use even in a darkened room.- Owen Smith
- Post #14
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Yes but can it display the video and play the audio? But can it still play all the other channels on the multiplex? If so I suspect the powers that be will be happy with that. What they don't want is to prevent a load of people watching ITV1 SD and C4 SD.- Owen Smith
- Post #19
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
In some designs. I can believe there are designs where firmware gets in the way and screws up in some situations, for example unexpected codecs in a DVB-T multiplex. Again in some designs.- Owen Smith
- Post #16
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I must have been more tired than I thought last night. Re-checking the receipts, the oldest one from John Lewis is from November 2010 and the Grade A from Humax was bought in 2014. These dates match your release date article.- Owen Smith
- Post #11
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Has anyone been able to test an HD Fox T2 with this change? Mine is in Yorkshire in use by my parents on their bedroom TV. Annoyingly that TV is a 1080p 24" Sony made long after DVB-T2 existed but it doesn't support it, hence the HD Fox T2. Ofcom mandating DVB-T2 in TVs would also have prevented...- Owen Smith
- Post #12
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I have some dates. The failed HDR Fox T2 was a Grade A bought from Humax in 2012. Meanwhile the brand new one I bought from John Lewis in 2008 some 17 years ago and I use more is still working fine. Both are still on the original hard discs. The display on the one still working is rather dim, I...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
I've changed job several times since the place I could have asked and got references to specs. But why would you use DVB-T given its less efficient use of bandwidth? If they're going to start broadcasting channels that can't be played by DVB-T only equipment due to AVC/AAC, why not go the whole...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Just retuned my HDR Fox T2 and on selecting channel 71 I get That's TV 3 and as expected my home cinema amp says the sound is Dolby Digital 2.0. Double checked and channel 3 ITV1 says LPCM 2.0 whereas channel 103 ITV1 HD says Dolby Digital 2.0. All as expected, That's TV 3 has AAC audio so I...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Reads to me like it already rolled out. Audio set to multi channel should show it, AAC is converted to Dolby Digital for multi channel capability even if it is only actually in stereo eg ITV1 HD. MPEG audio used by std def is converted to LPCM.- Owen Smith
- Post #5
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Linked article says: "However, broadcasters may hope the change does remain unnoticed. That would indicate that there are sufficiently small numbers of incompatible TVs and set-top-boxes around to warrant considering switching other services across." No, that would indicate very few people are...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
They're not supposed to do that on DVB-T muxes. If they want to do that the correct way is to convert an entire mux to DVB-T2. We have standards for a reason. As for "anything DVB-T2 capable will be fine" - not necessarily. Those codecs are not supposed to be used on DVB-T and I can easily see...- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Not sure. I'd expect NAND since it's running embedded Linux, but it's not certain. I'd have to lookup the chips online.- Owen Smith
- Post #8
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
It doesn't boot sufficiently to either flush or reload firmware. Or at least I assume it doesn't since it is on "START SYSTEM". The firmware is stored in Flash on the HDR Fox T2, as it is in almost everything these days. E2PROM is largely obsolete and generally is used for saving settings on...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
The large 16V capacitor closest to the 4R7 inductor in the photo below only has 0.89V across it, that feels unlikely for a 16V part. The cpu heatsink gets hot so the cpu is powered.- Owen Smith
- Post #4
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Recordings on the hard disc aren't a concern by the way. I have them all auto decrypting so they should be usable with another main board, and if not it's only telly and I have an Apple TV 4K for catchup. I prefer to use the HDR Fox T2 because I get 5.1 sound on some BBC and C4 programmes...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I've checked the power supply outputs with a multimeter and they all measure as expected based on what is printed on the power supply PCB next to the connector. 5.8V measures as about 6.4V and 12V measures about 12.3V. Feels like a main board issue, is there anything I can check there?- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder