Clarification before upgrading HDD

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Peter H

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I have a HDR Fox T2 and am about to upgrade from 500Gb to 1Tb, have CF version 3.13 and a Fedora 43 which I intend to use for file transfer speed.

If I format the new(ish) HDD using the original box does it put the CF on to the new drive?

If so, should I upgrade to 3.14 first?

I do not use Iplayer, but are there other updates from 3.13 that are concidered important to have?

Thanks
 
The Customised Firmware lives in Flash memory not on disk,
3.14 is a significant update on 3.13 and should be installed - it doesn't require use of a USB stick to update to 3.14
The Webif lives on disk and won't move automatically, you could copy the /mod directory across or reinstall webif
 
Another Peter H here :)

Can I just ask a simple Q: is it OK to use linux dd (as in e.g. Clonezilla command line) to clone the Humax HD to a new one of the same size? It does work for e.g. weird win11 partition schemes but is not going to replicate the HD serial number.

Unless the Humax does something weird with the HD S/N, the new HD should just work straight off.
 
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peterh337 said:
is it OK to use linux dd (as in e.g. Clonezilla command line) to clone the Humax HD to a new one of the same size?
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Yes, but it's not very efficient. You would be better off partitioning, formatting and using rsync.
not going to replicate the HD serial number.
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HD serial numbers are burnt in to the hardware and can't be replicated. In any case it's completely irrelevant in this application.
 
I don't see much point in cloning a HDD (ie duplicating it sector by sector). Not only are you copying stuff that doesn't need copying, you are also relying on sector mapping to bypass faulty sectors (which won't be in the same places). Format it and copy the file system, don't clone the binary.
 
Isn't sector remapping done transparently by the HD controller nowadays?
AIUI, DD does a logical sector copy, number 0 onwards.
Clonezilla can also do a clone at a higher level, but I found it didn't work for a win11 GPT system. It will probably work for this one.

I did a google:

Linux dd does not generally mess up or hinder bad sector remapping; rather, writing to a drive with dd (e.g., dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX) is a common method to force the drive's controller to identify, isolate, and remap bad sectors to spare, healthy ones. It triggers the internal mechanism that handles remapping, assuming the drive has not exhausted its reserve space.
 
Indeed, but why? You don't need an image, you only need a file system. Use an operating system to copy the file system, not low-level tools to duplicate the binary. It's more robust.
 
One needs to know what one is doing, for that :)
I can do it for windoze, but linux?
Clonezilla is linux so I will initially try using that to do a "clone".
 
peterh337 said:
One needs to know what one is doing, for that
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peterh337 said:
I can do it for windoze, but linux?
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Modern Linuxes are just like Windows. In any case, you don't have to worry about formatting, you can simply format it in the HDR-FOX. That done, connect up both HDDs and transfer user stuff from the old to the new (basically /mod and /My Video). That way you get a fresh installation without copying across file system defects.

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Pulled the old HD out, Big Seagate monster, 4" wide.
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3½". That's not big – I date from the days of Winchesters, then 8", then 5¼". (NB: sizing is based on the diameter of the disk platter within.)
 
EEPhil said:
I still have one with a backup of some work I did back in 1982!
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I only came across 8" disks once on a system in 1989 and I don't think the drive worked then. If it did, then nobody used it.
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I still have a PC here with a combined 3.5" and 5.25" floppy drive.
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Yes, me too. I'm trying to get rid of it all. I've tried two 3.5" drives so far and both show no signs of life, despite the rest of the PC being healthy. Got at least one more, possibly two to try.
I guess the 5.25" will work (famous last words) as they were remarkably reliable for me (apart from the 1.2MB HD format ones which were almost completely the opposite).
 
The HDD is in and working perfectly.


Thank you for your help. I did it with DD in the end, because Clonezilla was saying something about deleting unused (?) partitions (should have got a pic) when using its GUI mode.

I also loaded the fan app and set it to 50%, and one can hear it... very quiet but running.
 
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