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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Yes but can it display the video and play the audio? But can it still play all the other channels on the multiplex? If so I suspect the powers that be will be happy with that. What they don't want is to prevent a load of people watching ITV1 SD and C4 SD.- Owen Smith
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- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
In some designs. I can believe there are designs where firmware gets in the way and screws up in some situations, for example unexpected codecs in a DVB-T multiplex. Again in some designs.- Owen Smith
- Post #16
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I must have been more tired than I thought last night. Re-checking the receipts, the oldest one from John Lewis is from November 2010 and the Grade A from Humax was bought in 2014. These dates match your release date article.- Owen Smith
- Post #11
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Has anyone been able to test an HD Fox T2 with this change? Mine is in Yorkshire in use by my parents on their bedroom TV. Annoyingly that TV is a 1080p 24" Sony made long after DVB-T2 existed but it doesn't support it, hence the HD Fox T2. Ofcom mandating DVB-T2 in TVs would also have prevented...- Owen Smith
- Post #12
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I have some dates. The failed HDR Fox T2 was a Grade A bought from Humax in 2012. Meanwhile the brand new one I bought from John Lewis in 2008 some 17 years ago and I use more is still working fine. Both are still on the original hard discs. The display on the one still working is rather dim, I...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
I've changed job several times since the place I could have asked and got references to specs. But why would you use DVB-T given its less efficient use of bandwidth? If they're going to start broadcasting channels that can't be played by DVB-T only equipment due to AVC/AAC, why not go the whole...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Just retuned my HDR Fox T2 and on selecting channel 71 I get That's TV 3 and as expected my home cinema amp says the sound is Dolby Digital 2.0. Double checked and channel 3 ITV1 says LPCM 2.0 whereas channel 103 ITV1 HD says Dolby Digital 2.0. All as expected, That's TV 3 has AAC audio so I...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Reads to me like it already rolled out. Audio set to multi channel should show it, AAC is converted to Dolby Digital for multi channel capability even if it is only actually in stereo eg ITV1 HD. MPEG audio used by std def is converted to LPCM.- Owen Smith
- Post #5
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Linked article says: "However, broadcasters may hope the change does remain unnoticed. That would indicate that there are sufficiently small numbers of incompatible TVs and set-top-boxes around to warrant considering switching other services across." No, that would indicate very few people are...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
They're not supposed to do that on DVB-T muxes. If they want to do that the correct way is to convert an entire mux to DVB-T2. We have standards for a reason. As for "anything DVB-T2 capable will be fine" - not necessarily. Those codecs are not supposed to be used on DVB-T and I can easily see...- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Not sure. I'd expect NAND since it's running embedded Linux, but it's not certain. I'd have to lookup the chips online.- Owen Smith
- Post #8
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
It doesn't boot sufficiently to either flush or reload firmware. Or at least I assume it doesn't since it is on "START SYSTEM". The firmware is stored in Flash on the HDR Fox T2, as it is in almost everything these days. E2PROM is largely obsolete and generally is used for saving settings on...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
The large 16V capacitor closest to the 4R7 inductor in the photo below only has 0.89V across it, that feels unlikely for a 16V part. The cpu heatsink gets hot so the cpu is powered.- Owen Smith
- Post #4
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Recordings on the hard disc aren't a concern by the way. I have them all auto decrypting so they should be usable with another main board, and if not it's only telly and I have an Apple TV 4K for catchup. I prefer to use the HDR Fox T2 because I get 5.1 sound on some BBC and C4 programmes...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I've checked the power supply outputs with a multimeter and they all measure as expected based on what is printed on the power supply PCB next to the connector. 5.8V measures as about 6.4V and 12V measures about 12.3V. Feels like a main board issue, is there anything I can check there?- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
My newest and least used HDR Fox T2 now gets stuck at START SYSTEM on the display. I have disconnected the hard disc data and power cables but the problem remains so it isn't the capacitor like I thought. Is there anything I can check or is it just a case of getting my spare out of the loft and...- Owen Smith
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- Replies: 40
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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ITVBe closing down and being replaced by ITV Quiz
They say: ITV2 is the UK’s most successful digital channel for 16-34s. Really? What non digital channels do they think exist?- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: Freeview
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Start Up Fails When HDD Connected
Precisely my thought on seeing that picture. I'd be embarrassed if that were my work and I'm strictly a hobbyist. And it would be normal to fit solid core wire for a repair like that, not multi strand as they have done with attendant risk of a strand coming loose and shorting to something else.- Owen Smith
- Post #304
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stereo/surround sound - (was ITV Local News Midlands (HD and SD swap))
And there was me wondering if I should buy an old Foxsat HDR to get More 4 HD and Film 4 HD. That answers my question, and I am not paying $ky their pound of flesh.- Owen Smith
- Post #17
- Forum: Freeview
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Stereo/surround sound - (was ITV Local News Midlands (HD and SD swap))
It could be a year or more since I watched a film on Freeview HD Five that was in 5.1. It was strange that Five HD was FTA on terrestrial but not on satellite.- Owen Smith
- Post #14
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Yes but can it display the video and play the audio? But can it still play all the other channels on the multiplex? If so I suspect the powers that be will be happy with that. What they don't want is to prevent a load of people watching ITV1 SD and C4 SD.- Owen Smith
- Post #19
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
In some designs. I can believe there are designs where firmware gets in the way and screws up in some situations, for example unexpected codecs in a DVB-T multiplex. Again in some designs.- Owen Smith
- Post #16
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I must have been more tired than I thought last night. Re-checking the receipts, the oldest one from John Lewis is from November 2010 and the Grade A from Humax was bought in 2014. These dates match your release date article.- Owen Smith
- Post #11
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Has anyone been able to test an HD Fox T2 with this change? Mine is in Yorkshire in use by my parents on their bedroom TV. Annoyingly that TV is a 1080p 24" Sony made long after DVB-T2 existed but it doesn't support it, hence the HD Fox T2. Ofcom mandating DVB-T2 in TVs would also have prevented...- Owen Smith
- Post #12
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I have some dates. The failed HDR Fox T2 was a Grade A bought from Humax in 2012. Meanwhile the brand new one I bought from John Lewis in 2008 some 17 years ago and I use more is still working fine. Both are still on the original hard discs. The display on the one still working is rather dim, I...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
I've changed job several times since the place I could have asked and got references to specs. But why would you use DVB-T given its less efficient use of bandwidth? If they're going to start broadcasting channels that can't be played by DVB-T only equipment due to AVC/AAC, why not go the whole...- Owen Smith
- Post #9
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Just retuned my HDR Fox T2 and on selecting channel 71 I get That's TV 3 and as expected my home cinema amp says the sound is Dolby Digital 2.0. Double checked and channel 3 ITV1 says LPCM 2.0 whereas channel 103 ITV1 HD says Dolby Digital 2.0. All as expected, That's TV 3 has AAC audio so I...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Reads to me like it already rolled out. Audio set to multi channel should show it, AAC is converted to Dolby Digital for multi channel capability even if it is only actually in stereo eg ITV1 HD. MPEG audio used by std def is converted to LPCM.- Owen Smith
- Post #5
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
Linked article says: "However, broadcasters may hope the change does remain unnoticed. That would indicate that there are sufficiently small numbers of incompatible TVs and set-top-boxes around to warrant considering switching other services across." No, that would indicate very few people are...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: Freeview
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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit
They're not supposed to do that on DVB-T muxes. If they want to do that the correct way is to convert an entire mux to DVB-T2. We have standards for a reason. As for "anything DVB-T2 capable will be fine" - not necessarily. Those codecs are not supposed to be used on DVB-T and I can easily see...- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: Freeview
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Not sure. I'd expect NAND since it's running embedded Linux, but it's not certain. I'd have to lookup the chips online.- Owen Smith
- Post #8
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
It doesn't boot sufficiently to either flush or reload firmware. Or at least I assume it doesn't since it is on "START SYSTEM". The firmware is stored in Flash on the HDR Fox T2, as it is in almost everything these days. E2PROM is largely obsolete and generally is used for saving settings on...- Owen Smith
- Post #6
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
The large 16V capacitor closest to the 4R7 inductor in the photo below only has 0.89V across it, that feels unlikely for a 16V part. The cpu heatsink gets hot so the cpu is powered.- Owen Smith
- Post #4
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
Recordings on the hard disc aren't a concern by the way. I have them all auto decrypting so they should be usable with another main board, and if not it's only telly and I have an Apple TV 4K for catchup. I prefer to use the HDR Fox T2 because I get 5.1 sound on some BBC and C4 programmes...- Owen Smith
- Post #3
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
I've checked the power supply outputs with a multimeter and they all measure as expected based on what is printed on the power supply PCB next to the connector. 5.8V measures as about 6.4V and 12V measures about 12.3V. Feels like a main board issue, is there anything I can check there?- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stuck at START SYSTEM even with no hard disc
My newest and least used HDR Fox T2 now gets stuck at START SYSTEM on the display. I have disconnected the hard disc data and power cables but the problem remains so it isn't the capacitor like I thought. Is there anything I can check or is it just a case of getting my spare out of the loft and...- Owen Smith
- Thread
- Replies: 40
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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ITVBe closing down and being replaced by ITV Quiz
They say: ITV2 is the UK’s most successful digital channel for 16-34s. Really? What non digital channels do they think exist?- Owen Smith
- Post #2
- Forum: Freeview
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Start Up Fails When HDD Connected
Precisely my thought on seeing that picture. I'd be embarrassed if that were my work and I'm strictly a hobbyist. And it would be normal to fit solid core wire for a repair like that, not multi strand as they have done with attendant risk of a strand coming loose and shorting to something else.- Owen Smith
- Post #304
- Forum: HDR-FOX T2 Freeview Recorder
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Stereo/surround sound - (was ITV Local News Midlands (HD and SD swap))
And there was me wondering if I should buy an old Foxsat HDR to get More 4 HD and Film 4 HD. That answers my question, and I am not paying $ky their pound of flesh.- Owen Smith
- Post #17
- Forum: Freeview
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Stereo/surround sound - (was ITV Local News Midlands (HD and SD swap))
It could be a year or more since I watched a film on Freeview HD Five that was in 5.1. It was strange that Five HD was FTA on terrestrial but not on satellite.- Owen Smith
- Post #14
- Forum: Freeview