1100S Recording from Live TV

DrMopp

New Member
Just changed from Foxsat-HDR to 1100S. The Foxsat had a LNB1 out connection, which allowed a 'loop' arrangement from LNB1 to LNB2 sockets enabling recording one channel whilst watching another. No such connection on the 1100S. As we cannot have two wires from the LNB as we are in a rented apartment this could be an issue, though not having used the box yet it may prove a no-issue - any thoughts?
 

MartinLiddle

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Just changed from Foxsat-HDR to 1100S. The Foxsat had a LNB1 out connection, which allowed a 'loop' arrangement from LNB1 to LNB2 sockets enabling recording one channel whilst watching another. No such connection on the 1100S. As we cannot have two wires from the LNB as we are in a rented apartment this could be an issue, though not having used the box yet it may prove a no-issue - any thoughts?
I think it has an internal link that is automatically activated when a single feed is detected and should work the same as a Foxsat with a single feed and loop connector.
 
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DrMopp

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OK possibly, I'll have to try it, but the manual does say that if you don't have two satellite feeds it's not possible to record one channel whilst watching another (I thnk the Foxsat said the same though!)
 

grahamlthompson

Well-Known Member
The box works even better than the Foxsat-HDR using a single cable. It provides the same capability internally, plus it adds time shifting on any third channel you can view and also lets you record any viewed 3rd channel from the time shift buffer after any of the two recordings finishes. By using a watch reservation for the third channel you can ensure the buffer is complete for the 3rd channel recording.
 
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DrMopp

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Thanks, I have tested and perfectly possible to watch one channel and record another which was my concern, as I read this in the manual:
"Your Freesat+ box can record one channel while you watch another. Or you can record two different channels, and play back a recording you made earlier. The box will need to be connected to the satellite dish with two cables. If you only use one cable, this feature won’t be available"
It's not clear from the above which of the two features described "...won't be available"
 

Black Hole

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The key is where Graham said "any channel you can view" while Humax only says "two different channels". The LNB at the dish can only send about a quarter of all the channels down any one cable at any one time, using a signal sent up the cable to select which particular set (high band or low band, horizontal or vertical polarisation).

So your choice of second channel is limited, whereas if you had two cables your choice of two channels would be unlimited (but a third channel could be limited to being from the two sets, if the first two were not from the same set).
 
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DrMopp

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That's fine, don't have a problem with the three -channel scenario, its the first sentence in the manual paragraph I quoted i.e "Your Freesat box can record one channel while you watch another" that was bothering me, as I had (mistakenly as it turns out) linked that to the sentence saying "if you only use one cable, this feature won't be available"
 

grahamlthompson

Well-Known Member
That's fine, don't have a problem with the three -channel scenario, its the first sentence in the manual paragraph I quoted i.e "Your Freesat box can record one channel while you watch another" that was bothering me, as I had (mistakenly as it turns out) linked that to the sentence saying "if you only use one cable, this feature won't be available"

https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/what-can-i-record-and-watch-using-1-or-2-cables

Basically with one cable the channel tuner 1 is using determines what tuner 2 can use.

You need the following info for the channel tuner 1 is using.

Frequency Band High/Low - There are very few Freesat channels in the High Band
Channel Polarisation Horizontal/Vertical
Transponder Frequency.

Tuner 2 has access to all channels in the same band and having the same polarisation as the channel tuner 1 is using. Because there are very few high band channels that will normally be a little less than 50% of the total. Because the BBC has regional SD channels in both polarisations then you can affect the channels that tuner 2 has access to by recording an alternate region.

Third channels available

Recording two from the same transponder - Any 3rd channel is usable subject to the above band and polarisation options.

Recording two from different transponders - Any channel sharing a transponder with either recording is viewable.

This works because the Humax tuners can demux two channels from the same transponder so this only requires one tuner.

There is a file in Excel or HTM (viewable in a web browser) downloadable from the above thread with this info.

Simple Example Recording BBC1-HD (England) and BBC2-HD (Same transponder 10847 Vertical Low Band)

3rd channel usable list (You can set a reminder from the epg for any of the following during the period the box is recording the above 2)

121 Channel 4 + 1
122 E4
123 E4 + 1
124 More4
975 Channel 4 + 1
103 ITV
113 ITV2
117 ITV4
118 ITVBe
155 ITV4+1
602 CITV
977 ITV London
103 ITV London
103 ITV Granada
103 ITV Anglia East
103 ITV Central West
101 BBC One W Mid
201 BBC Parliament
703 BBC Radio 3
704 BBC Radio 4 FM
707 BBC 6Music
708 BBC Radio 4 Ex
710 BBC Radio 4 LW
711 BBC World Sv
712 BBC R Scotland
713 BBC RnGaidheal
714 BBC R Wales
715 BBC R Cymru
716 BBC R Ulster
717 BBCRadioFoyle
952 BBC One E Mid
953 BBC One East E
963 BBC One W Mid
964 BBC One Wales
967 BBC One Yk&Li
971 BBC Two Wales
212 BBC NEWS
607 CBBC
957 BBC One NI
958 BBC One Oxford
961 BBC One South
962 BBC One S West
969 BBC Two NI
102 BBC Two HD
106 BBC One HD
600 CBBC HD
972 BBC One HD
978 BBC One NI HD
115 ITV3
116 ITV3+1
731 talkSPORT
112 STV East + 1
103 STV North
103 STV Central West
103 STV Central East
112 ITV Granada + 1
103 ITV Channel TV
111 STV HD
111 ITV HD
111 ITV London HD
111 ITV Granada HD
111 ITV Meridian South HD
111 ITV Central West HD
111 ITV HD Anglia East
111 ITV HD Yorkshire West
207 CNN
127 4seven
206 RT HD
209 NHK WORLD HD
214 Arirang TV
692 Revelation
694 GOD Channel
142 True Ent
153 True Ent+ 1
152 True Crime+ 1
302 True Xmas
303 True Xmas+ 1
500 Chart Show TV
501 The Vault
502 ChartShow Hits
504 Starz TV
603 POP
605 Tiny Pop
604 Kix
606 POP MAX
609 Tiny Pop +1
134 CBS Drama
136 CBS Reality +1
139 horror ch+1
135 CBS Reality
137 CBS Action
138 horror channel
693 ISLAM CHANNEL
695 Sonlife TV
809 TJC
143 True Crime
148 Food Network
149 Food Network+1
156 PBS America
157 YourTV
205 France 24
811 Craft Extra
870 BABESTATION
210 CNBC
503 B4U Music
306 TalkingPics TV
806 JML Direct
161 SHOWCASE
693 ISLAM CHANNEL
695 Sonlife TV
809 TJC
815 Thane
400 IRISH TV
790 TWR
 
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