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DLNA indexing video/mp4 as audio/mp4

jack616

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I'm attempting to connect my box to my LG TV via ethernet (not wifi)
After trawling through the pages here (I've never used dlna) I have it working
but am encountering a few issues when using the mvdisks method to get at USB drives:

1. It (DLNA) is VERY slow -
2. If I turn it off and reset it does not clear data previously collected especially drives no longer connected
3. Some (specifically) mp4 video files are indexed as audio/mp4 - examining the files I cant see why -
(I checked things like audio codec frame rates pal/ntsc etc etc )
re-wrapping them as MKV they index correctly as video and play on the TV (but not the humax of course)
This does not seem an issue on the standard 'My Video' folder - (just realised I need to copy one in there -
to see if it will then index ok ...I'll come back after trying that)

But is this the best way to access the USB drives for the TV over ethernet or is there a better method.
It seems there should be a more efficient data connection...

suggestions welcome
thanks
 
Sorry for the slow response BH - I have some issues ATT and also I sudenly realised I should have done a clean
flush and re-install before panicking - I think I have that up now (I usually just swap entire drives )
I'm getting slower in my old age I think.

I'm not a fan of ms so never used their networking - I'll have to check it out - NFS - not sure I'll have to look
harder... I can see them on the Humax but couldn't find anything online about streaming without
having to buy extra kit.

If the DNLA database isn't dynamic once scanned? I guess I could edit the SQL data
(That at least is easy enough)

If it helps the TV is an LG oled C2 2023 model. I think my manual is archived - I'll dig it out
Presumably if you can stream from the internet you should be able to from a humax box with
a bit more efficiency than DNLA seems to muster (5 hours to scan a couple of USB drives and
still not finished and some files aren't recognised...) I wouldn't mind if it was an old
black and white 625 liner ... but in 2025? the complications seem unnecesary.

Sorry - I must have activated my 'Marvin' chip....
 
SMB isn't specifically a Microsoft thing (I think IBM came up with it, but...), but if needs must. I would be surprised if the TV doesn't have NAS access, and the HDR can be set up as a NAS using SMB or NFS. Once you have managed to expose the internal HDD, you will then need to play with the configuration files to include external drives (or rely on mvdisks).

The Humax DLNA indexer does seem slow, but it might have a low thread priority. I assume it runs with more priority as part of the shutdown process (along with the thumbnail generator) so you could try shutting down overnight and see whether the content has been indexed next day.

Of course you could try the simple expedient of sneakernet (move the USB to the TV).
 
Thanks BH

The DLNA indexer is still adding stuff 24 hours later and not deleting stuff that's gone
(or not getting round to it - we need a new definition for 'slow' I think...)
I found tmenu on the HDR which has functions to do menu stuff but nothing useful
with DLNA - I'm not really too interested in hacking the HDR - you guys
have done more than a good job on that.

Obviously this isnt the end of the world - I'm just seeing how far I can push things
and what is still not well developed - looking at the TV I think software skills are not so
hot over at LG even at the basic user interface level.

I checked out SMB/NFS but I think I'd hit a wall trying to actually stream data as
opposed to just files from what I can understand.
I read something about DLNA to USB 'plugs' somewhere but that didn't sound
too usefull either.

Maybe I'll just park the idea
and do as you say - just stick to plugging them into USB as needed.
 
I checked out SMB/NFS but I think I'd hit a wall trying to actually stream data as
opposed to just files from what I can understand.
It's accessing files that you want.

DLNA doesn't really "stream" as such, it's just an industry standard mechanism for devices to discover resources on other devices, and then access them.

Smart TVs also have the ability to access NAS (Network Attached Storage), which is just like a USB drive except connected through Ethernet/WiFi using networking protocols. So basically, by installing a SMB or NFS server on the HDR-FOX (and configuring it appropriately), your TV would be able to "see" the files on your HDR-FOX's HDD or USB drives, and play any media files, as if they were on a local drive (encryption notwithstanding).
 
Thanks for the explanation BH - that makes more sense now.
(my networking experience is mostly mini-computer WAN's when a 2400 baud modem was the
latest thing to 'wire' them up...)
I did some ethernet but mostly just plug and go stuff I never really looked at it from
client/server perspectives.

That sounds well worth checking out - as I type I'm in the process of formatting a 2TB drive
to stick in the box - I thought I'd just re-wrap the stuff I wanted as MKV and store it in "My Video"
(I had a silly accident with mvdisks... ;-( ) ....

Just an update - the DLNA does miss-recognise .mp4 in "My Video" and also some
of the .TS files are recognised correctly but refuse to play back over DLNA.
My suspicion is negative time code errors in the files not being accounted for by
whatever DLNA is using to scan them as they play fine anywhere else
but don't quote me on that - more checking/knowledge is really needed.
 
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