HDR-FOX T2 sorted?

It may not be, if it is old incandescent bulbs.
And, further, an awful lot depends on where they are situated in relation to the TV.
 
dandnsmith said:
It may not be, if it is old incandescent bulbs.
And, further, an awful lot depends on where they are situated in relation to the TV.
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True. 200w incandescent isn't much. We have 80W CFL in our lounge, only 12' by 18'.
 
I was idling some time in a homeware shop today (escorting somebody buying a cooker) and glanced upon some kettles and toasters in various colours that were essentially square in shape. However, open the lid of the kettle and it was round inside!

Brand? Panasonic.
 
Ezra Pound said:
I have a friend that had a 52 inch plasma (Pioneer Kuro) that had the best 'Blacks' I've ever seen on any TV, however it did consume up to 400Watts, so as you say I suppose it's inevitable that Panasonic will take the same route as Pioneer, Sony etc. and stop making Plasma TVs
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If one wanted a flat panel display with true blacks and true-to-life colours ten years ago, plasma was really the only game in town. LED technology has come on a lot since then, particularly wrt power consumption. My previous 10-year old Panny is still going strong up in the bedroom so it will be interesting to see what technology will be around in eight years or so, when my current Panasonic might need replacing.
 
selectortone said:
If one wanted a flat panel display with true blacks and true-to-life colours ten years ago, plasma was really the only game in town. LED technology has come on a lot since then, particularly wrt power consumption. My previous 10-year old Panny is still going strong up in the bedroom so it will be interesting to see what technology will be around in eight years or so, when my current Panasonic might need replacing.
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Eventually the running costs overtake the cost of replacement, plus lower running costs.

I am waiting for a gas TV.
 
selectortone :
I have a friend that had a 52 inch plasma (Pioneer Kuro) that had the best 'Blaen plasmacks' I've ever seen on any TV, however it did consume up to 400Watts, so as you say I suppose it's inevitable that Panasonic will take the same route as Pioneer, Sony etc. and stop making Plasma TVs
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I think you have misquoted me
 
Ezra Pound said:
I think you have misquoted me
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So sorry! - don't know what happened there; gremlins in the machine. My laptop was behaving very strangely while I was typing my response, with the cursor jumping all over the place, then half the icons disappeared from the desktop. Probably someone at GCHQ having a laugh. I had to reboot the machine in the end. I've edited my post.
 
I did try translating it, but I didn't get very far, although blaen turns out to be Welsh for front :)
I don't think the Kuro will be bettered until OLED displays get big enough to replace it, I have an LCD which is back lit with LEDs that are individually turned off (Local LED dimming), but there are 6 million pixels and only 640 LEDS so it isn't quite as good
 
dandnsmith said:
It may not be, if it is old incandescent bulbs.
And, further, an awful lot depends on where they are situated in relation to the TV.
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It's 4x 50W Halogen spots, ceiling mounted and angled as wall-washers, so it's not dazzling. But it is enough to make the screen grey when 'off' instead of near black. I just find it annoying having so much light, and annoying that I'm paying for something I don't want. Grr!

I'd like to change them for LED versions but having tried a couple of supposed equivalents they are just not close in the lighting effect and one was unreliable too. So given the price they are I've shelved that plan until they (LED ones) improve.
 
I too have been experimenting with LED units to replace 50w halogens.
The only units which came anywhere near were 60 LED warm white, and the supply seems to have dried up.
I also tried the 'white' 60 LED units, but these were a very cold, bluish white, and some 48 LED units which weren't bright enough or sufficiently spread in the beam. It seems difficult to get wattage, beam spread and lumens on most of the units.
 
dandnsmith said:
I too have been experimenting with LED units to replace 50w halogens.
The only units which came anywhere near were 60 LED warm white, and the supply seems to have dried up.
I also tried the 'white' 60 LED units, but these were a very cold, bluish white, and some 48 LED units which weren't bright enough or sufficiently spread in the beam. It seems difficult to get wattage, beam spread and lumens on most of the units.
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We have 5 of these in our kitchen. The light is reasonable, but could do with being brighter:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008VS90EK/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They are reliable at least, but the light quality is not great. We had a discussion about this on another thread:

http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/led-lighting.3076/

There is something very dim about LED lighting, maybe it is the thin spectrum?
 
Mike0001 said:
There is something very dim about LED lighting, maybe it is the thin spectrum?
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It was/is the same with CFL to me. I think the manufacturers and/or industry 'tree huggers' use seriously optimistic conversion figures from incandescent to low energy so as to improve energy reduction and/or sales.
If buying CFL or LED now I'll always go for a size or two higher wattage than the claimed equivalent. So for a 60W incandescent I'll look for 75W or more 'equivalent'.

For the LED spots I think part of the problem is that a standard 38° halogen has a core beam of 38° but also has a fair bit of spill because the filament isn't shielded. The 38° LEDs are more focused with little spill, so although they probably have the same light within the beam they throw far less outside. Hence, when used as a more general light rather than a spot, the effect is very different.
 
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