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How to transfer files from defunct HDR FOX T2 to view on HDR 2000T?

Many thanks to all.

This is the end of the road for the HDR Fox T2, unfortunately. We had 14 good years!

At least we have a new and unused HDR 2000T to replace it. I bought and stored it for just such an event.

My wife will miss her years of recorded tennis match and various dramas etc.
 
jalba said:
This is the end of the road for the HDR Fox T2, unfortunately. We had 14 good years!
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So you're no good at soldering then? There's an opportunity to learn here, the box is already dead so what do you have to lose by attempting to fix it?
jalba said:
My wife will miss her years of recorded tennis match and various dramas etc.
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There are still methods for retrieving them. Repairing your HDR Fox T2; transplanting the disc and encryption key into another HDR Fox T2; or learning how to download and run stripts on your Chromebook. It's up to you and her what they are worth.

You could hang on to the disc and HDR Fox T2 for a while. If your wife starts to miss her recordings more and more it may reach the point of being worth the effort trying to retrieve them.
 
@jalba is there a repair cafe event near you? Often there are people there that will do soldering for free. We've done the diagnosis, you can print out or download the instructions for what to replace. It might be wise to turn up with a replacement capacitor that you have bought online, but if not this is a pretty common value and voltage so the repairers might have one anyway.
 
Thanks Owen. You gave it your best shot.

I think I may opt for your latter suggestion, ie hang on to the disc and HDR Fox T2 for a while.
 
You say have a USB caddy, if you boot the diskless HDR Fox T2 then attach the caddy to USB port with the disk, can you not read the files?
 
Yes I can see the files but can't play them. I am currently trying to see if I can copy them to a 64gb usb pen drive via the 2nd usb port. So far I have been unsuccessful.
 
So much noise, not much signal.

1. I don't see as there is any impediment to decryption using the Chromebook. The OP has stated the files can ba accessed on the HDD, and that is all there is to it.

2. The "capacitor fault" cause the HDR-FOX to go through a repetitive reboot cycle while the HDD is connected. I don't read that as being the case here. Just because replacing the capacitor gets some HDR-FOXes working doesn't imply it will in this case.

3. Not being networked doesn't stop it becoming networked, if the OP could be bothered..
 
Black Hole said:
So much noise, not much signal.
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I agree it's less than ideal.
Black Hole said:
1. I don't see as there is any impediment to decryption using the Chromebook. The OP has stated the files can ba accessed on the HDD, and that is all there is to it.
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The poster's reply to that was they don't understand what we mean by "run stripts on the chromebook". Remember the request for detailed step by step instructions that just work? Meanwhile on the stripts thread there is doubt that it even runs on current linux distributions.
Black Hole said:
2. The "capacitor fault" cause the HDR-FOX to go through a repetitive reboot cycle while the HDD is connected. I don't read that as being the case here. Just because replacing the capacitor gets some HDR-FOXes working doesn't imply it will in this case.
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Indeed the description does lack detail, there is no description of repetitive reboot. But the HDR Fox T2 boots without the hard disc connected and does not with it, which is close.

It would also have been useful to have been told if the HDR Fox T2 went through the firmware programming percentages on screen on powering on with the USB stick for firmware update. It's far from clear it was actually programmed. But it didn't used to boot even without the hard disc connected we are told, so maybe it reprogrammed?
Black Hole said:
3. Not being networked doesn't stop it becoming networked, if the OP could be bothered..
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That was my thought too. This isn't permanent it's just for extracting the files.

There's also the question why when connecting the hard disc in the caddy over USB the HDR Fox T2 can't play the encrypted files. But I don't know if that is expected to work I've never connected a disc with encrypted files on it to the USB port so I didn't want to pursue that. Does anyone know, for sure, whether that should work?
 
jalba said:
I am willing to try the stripts method on my Chromebook if given a straightforward step-by-step guide.
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I doubt anyone is in a position to write such a guide. The author would probably need to duplicate what you are trying to do, down to having a Chromebook running the same version of the operating system. Instructions written without testing inevitably contain mistakes or incorrect assumptions (eg every unix system has xyz utility installed).
 
Are we actually sure there is a version of stripts for use on a Chromebook? From the Wiki I only see
  • Stripts (Including Offline Decryption)for Linux systems
  • Stripts (Including Offline Decryption) for OmniOS/OpenIndiana/SmartOS/Solaris x86 systems
  • Stripts (Including Offline Decryption) for MacOSX system
  • Stripts (Including Offline Decryption) for Windows Command Line (By af123)
Am I missing something?

Edit: Yes, since I posted prpr has added a couple of Ubuntu 64 bit versions!
 
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Owen Smith said:
Is the Chromebook not a Linux system?
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It has a linux kernal, but no, it is not a Linux system.
See https://www.scaler.com/topics/is-chrome-os-linux/

It is possible to run Linux apps on Chromebooks

Linux setup | ChromeOS.dev

chromeos.dev chromeos.dev
The older Chromebooks (pre 2019) won’t be able to run Linux apps this way. The newer ones still have to have setup to run Linux apps, and won't be able to out of the box.

There appear to be some information online about how to run linux apps without the Linux developer mode being switched on.
 
I 'may' have succeeded in copying the files, using the Humax native opt+ command. I couldn't access or see the files via 'Video' as the screen just went blank every time I clicked on Video. However, I could see the files via 'Music'.
I currently have the Humax hard drive via USB caddy in the 1st USB port and a 64gb usb drive flickering away in the 2nd USB port, which 'seems' to be copying a large file I marked for copying. It is taking time.
I will report back.
 
Owen Smith said:
There's also the question why when connecting the hard disc in the caddy over USB the HDR Fox T2 can't play the encrypted files. But I don't know if that is expected to work I've never connected a disc with encrypted files on it to the USB port so I didn't want to pursue that. Does anyone know, for sure, whether that should work?
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This should work, on a working system, if the caddy is not expecting to power the HDD from the USB port (which can only provide sufficient power for a 5V-only "portable" HDD). But with a dodgy system there are too many unknowns.

Owen Smith said:
The poster's reply to that was they don't understand what we mean by "run stripts on the chromebook". Remember the request for detailed step by step instructions that just work?
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If the OP tried it and reported the results, further guidance could be provided. It's not that difficult... unless people are unwilling even to try. Ditto a "regular" Windows PC with a bootable Linux. We can't help people who won't try to help themselves.

On the other hand, if the OP wants to message me, for a small consideration he could send me the disk and a photo of the HDR-FOX label and I'll decrypt the bloody thing myself.
 
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Black Hole said:
If the OP tried it and reported the results, further guidance could be provided. It's not that difficult... unless people are unwilling even to try. Ditto a "regular" Windows PC with a bootable Linux. We can't help people who won't try to help themselves.
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I'm an embedded software developer by profession. I have two Windows PCs and one linux box on my desk (which I have superuser access to for maintenance), and access to various servers for builds. I believe I know what I'm doing much of the time. And yet when I tried to run a bootable linux on my Windows PC at home a few years ago nothing I tried worked because so many of the standard linux command line utilities weren't present in the bootable image. I gave up and did what I was trying to do at work.

Similarly if a Chromebook does not run real Linux and needs developer features enabling and things installing to allow linux tools to be run, it is likely getting stripts to run on a Chromeback will be a considerable exercise. It would be another job where I would likely just take it to work and use my real linux box there instead.
 
prpr said:
No there isn't. It does. Stop spreading falsehoods.
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I misinterpreted what was said on the other thread, which was actually pointing out the links in post 1 don't run on current linux systems. What it didn't initially say is "and there's a version that does work dozens of pages into the thread". We're not all mind readers, we can't read in new posts what isn't stated and personally I don't have time to read the gigabytes of old postings on hummy.tv.
 
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