Internet radio

RobH1

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Still unable to get internet radio working, stations load (?) but no sound. iplayer works (test only as I use a firestick).

Custom Portal
Web interface version: 1.4.9-9
Custom firmware version: 3.10 (build 2734)
Humax Version: 1.03.12 (kernel HDR_CFW_3.10)
Loader Version: a7.30
fttp 36Mbps
D-Link dhp 302 & 342

I recall reading that sometimes settings in the router (in my case BT Home Hub) need to be tweaked but I'm unable to see what or where.

All had been ok up until June and nothing has been altered in my set up. Any ideas?
 
There was a problem with BBC channels from a year or more ago, after they re-hosted their MP3 streams, where a second of sound would play and then nothing else. It would be interesting if those channels had started working again until June.

Meanwhile, yes, I see "Loading" and no sound at all for every channel tried. There is a connection to humaxtvportal.com.

I think that all we know about the app is in the linked thread.
 
36Mbps seems slow for FTTP.
For several years I had 40Mbps FTTP broadband which was a trial product offered by Plusnet. Wonderfully stable and good value at £25 a month. The trial product has been discontinued and I am now on 150Mbps for a small increase in price and much faster speeds are available if you can justify the additional expenditure.
 
No alternative when we bought a new property. BT was the only ISP and 36Mbps and two year contract was the only option. Have 5 months left on contact and new providers are now available, so should be able to improve the situation.

Fibrus, a new company supplying the north west offered me 150Mbps, a £100 Amazon voucher and pay off my existing contract to a maximum of £250, 4 months free for £29.99 month with guaranteed no increases during the contract period (18 months I think).

Downloads speeds no matter how fast are no good if e.g. I can't get internet radio on my FoxT2! :mad:
 
For several years I had 40Mbps FTTP broadband which was a trial product offered by Plusnet. Wonderfully stable and good value at £25 a month. The trial product has been discontinued and I am now on 150Mbps for a small increase in price and much faster speeds are available if you can justify the additional expenditure.
Talktalk are giving me 150Mbps FTTP for £22 per month no increase for term of contract and that also includes line rental and free calls 24/7 to UK landlines and mobiles.
 
Good deal that trog. Until our move mentioned above I had been with Tiscali/TalkTalk since 2004 getting a good deal each year and no problems. On leaving they offered to let me keep my Tiscali email address through mail plus which I make use of.
I will contact them first when the contract comes up for renewal.
 
Good deal that trog. Until our move mentioned above I had been with Tiscali/TalkTalk since 2004 getting a good deal each year and no problems. On leaving they offered to let me keep my Tiscali email address through mail plus which I make use of.
I will contact them first when the contract comes up for renewal.
I too have been with them for that long without issues but was not happy with the price they were about to increase my old deal to when the contract ended so started the move to Plusnet and they then offered me FTTP 65Mbps with landline & free calls for £22 per month with first 3 months free which Plusnet could not beat so I stayed with them and a few months later Talktalk phoned me offering to up it to 150Mbps for no extra charge if I started a new 18 month contract, I asked what the catch was and the guy said the government were putting pressure on them to increase average broadband speeds for their customers and I guess it was the easiest way for them to achieve that.
 
Has there been any investigation in to why the Internet radio connection is so flaky? Do we just accept that is was good when introduced but many owners now aren't interested?

It's useful for me as I'm in a poor FM reception spot and DAB is such an awful sound from a portable radio and I don't want another box to add to my sound system with the possibility of an exterior aerial not working.
 
I queried Humax re Internet radio and received a reply stating that now, only iPlayer is supported, which we kind of gathered.
 
The Humax app is a specialised version of the vTuner site. Although I couldn't see evidence of this regarding Humax, it looks as if vTuner is playing hard-ball with the AV device suppliers by withdrawing or neutering free APIs and requiring payment from the supplier or the supplier's customers.

You can browse to a station list page similar to that displayed in the settop browser: http://tv2.humaxtvportal.com:8094/P...dex.htm?feed=favourite&level=top&siteLang=eng

(I set the UA to match the settop browser Opera/9.80 (Linux 7405b0-smp; U; HbbTV/1.1.1 (; Humax; HD-FOX T2; 1.03.02; 1.0; ); ce-html/1.0; en) Presto/2.10.250 Version/11.60, and the desktop browser has the device certificate installed, but this is just HTTP so it isn't being used.)

As the settop browser's keyboard/remote UI isn't available the page is a bit static (even with JS enabled) but you can compare it with a similar page (chosen for having only 6 stations) in the current vTuner site: https://vtuner.com/setupapp/guide/a...Tunes&sBrowseType=Format&sNiceLOFO=Show Tunes.

The Humax app fetches a chunk of structured HTML that is meant to contain the media links and metadata for each station, but the link field used for the playable link is missing, along with everything else except content-type, station-id and station-mime, which are not enough to construct a playable URL.

The vTuner site loads the actually displayed HTML station list with a server-side dynamic playable URL linked for each station. The URL has the station ID as a parameter but also a giant server-generated hex string as the value of the mandatory k parameter, eg:
https://vtuner.com/setupapp/guide/a...238b4127af5526633cc312a042bb01ca8d2909740c95.

As we can't generate that string, we can't just patch this new link format into the Humax app.

A way to fix the problem, if desired, is this:
1. make a local version of the Portal Internet Radio app
2. modify the JS code that generates station list pages and play pages based on the current vTuner app
3. make this into a CF package.

Or, deploy a vTuner look-alike in the WebIf server and then
1. make a local version of the Portal Internet Radio app
2. modify the JS code that generates station list pages and play pages to use the local "vTuner" server (possibly much less work)
3. make this into a CF package.

Probably an unfeasible number of tuits of whatever shape would be required in either case.

Separately, the BBC will stop supporting Shoutcast by mid-2023 (so the issue of its broken MP3 streams will become moot and our player would have to support AAC over DASH or HLS).
 
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