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Newbies' Guide to the Hummy.tv Forum

Black Hole

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*** The forum was updated to XenForo2 (XF2) software in March 2018. There are some changes from XF1, and the details below have been updated as appropriate. ***

This is an informational post that I can point people at when necessary, in response to several occasions where newbies have (somehow - don't ask me how!) opened a Private Conversation with me when they thought they were (or claimed they were) posting on the forum.

NB: This forum is pretty typical of forums in general, although the terminology varies from place to place. If you know how to drive another forum, this one should be a cinch (and vice versa).

Browsing the Forum

The "Forums" tab at the top left of the page (immediately below the "hummy.tv" heading) gets you to the main listing of forum sections. In forum parlance, these are individual forums under the hummy.tv banner, but in fact we treat them as sections (or, if you like, sub-forums) of the forum devoted to the specific subject areas identified in their titles. If you are only interested in one particular subject area you only need to look at one section, but as many aspects of Humax STB ownership apply to more than one particular subject area, there is a lot of spill-over between the sections and it is wise to keep an eye on similar sections.

Within each section there are topics of discussion (in forum parlance: "threads") listed, with the topics containing the most recent additions listed first. Each section may also contain sub-sections. Some sections contain many, many pages of topic listings.

There are several ways to access the most recent postings:

By clicking the "Mark forums read" tool (near the top left of the page) when you first join the forum (you need to be logged in), the forum software will reset all your "unread" flags on content and then any new content added subsequently will be highlighted in the topic listings, and sections containing new content will be highlighted in the section listing. This is the way I prefer to work;​
By clicking "New Posts" on the toolbar, a list of unread topics (from all sections) becomes available (this does not work if you are not logged in). This has the disadvantage of it not being obvious what subject area each post belongs in;​
The latest posts appear down the right hand side of the main forum page (assuming you are using a "wide" view - not a phone screen).​
Searching the Forum

Before starting a new forum post or topic, it is strongly recommended that you should acquaint yourself with any existing material on the subject to check that your query has not been answered previously, and to determine whether there is an existing topic appropriate to your post rather than start a new topic.

If there is a current situation, such as a problem with broadcasts or a recent firmware update, most likely it will be a current topic of discussion and has a topic title near the top of the subject list for the relevant forum section.

Alternatively there are two methods of conducting a forum search:

Native - using the search box near the top right of the forum page. This is useful for being able to restrict the search to only a specific section and/or topic titles rather than the full post text. The native search cannot search for strings of three letters or fewer.​
External - using your favourite search engine. For example: a Google search can be restricted to search results from the forum by prefixing the search term(s) with "site:hummy.tv/forum", eg site:hummy.tv/forum newbies guide. It would be difficult to restrict searches to topic titles this way, so the native search still has its uses, but the results filtering is much better and there is no restriction against three-letter search terms.​
Note that the search results for the native search are provided in two tabs - one for a purely internal search, and the other as the equivalent search in Google (with the appropriate site restriction). However, these results also filter out three-letter search terms, so there is still a use for the external search.

Posting on the Forum - Adding to an Existing Topic

To post a message in an existing topic, there is a WYSIWYG editing pane at the bottom of the page. Whatever you post will be added to the topic in chronological order. Be careful not to add a post to a topic unless you have read to the end of the topic and it is still relevant - many times people have not noticed there are more posts "over the page". Note also that you might be preparing a post simultaneously with somebody else - whoever submits their post first gets listed first.

If you wish to quote all (or some) of an existing post, click the "Reply" link at the bottom of that post*. This can be done even when you are in the process of preparing a post. Edit the content between the [QUOTE]...[/QUOTE] tags to reduce it to the relevant part (but you will rightly be admonished if you alter the content of the quote to misrepresent it), but be careful not to corrupt the quote tags themselves - leave everything within (and including) the square brackets [ ] alone!

It is helpful to identify to what exactly you are responding - if another post cuts in between what seems a simple to and fro, it will break the understanding for everyone else. Your post might also appear on a different page from the post you are replying to, again making it difficult to follow the flow. The default forum setting for posts per page is 20, so a reply to post 20 will be on the next page, but the posts per page setting is user selectable so you can't be sure that (to another user) a reply to post 30 (for example) won't be on another page.

Be careful you are not replying to a stale topic. Sometimes it may be appropriate, but often it has been made irrelevant by the passage of time. Check the timestamps on the posts in the topic to be sure, particularly the year! Be careful also that there have not been further posts before you reply - you may not have noticed the discussion continuing on the next page.

* There are other means of selecting part of a post, multiple posts, or even parts of multiple posts, for quoting in a new reply (not all these facilities may be available on all forum browser platforms, eg Tapatalk):
  • To select the entirety of multiple posts to gather into a reply, click the "Quote+" button (next to "Reply"). The post editor will then offer the option to include quoted passages. This can also be used for posts from other topics. The individual quotes can be edited down in the reply if appropriate.
  • To select part of a post (or multiple posts) to quote in a reply, select the text in question and click "Reply" or "Quote+" on the resulting pop-up options.
Posting on the Forum - Starting a New Topic

In the event that none of the existing topics are relevant to your enquiry, you may want to start a new topic in the relevant section* of the forum. In the section listing, there is a button near the top right "Post Thread" - this provides an editor window for creating the first post in a new topic, where you can also set up the title for the topic that will appear in the listing. Please choose an appropriate and informative title. For example: "Problem with HDR-FOX" doesn't help readers see what the topic is about, and it is probably (or should be) in the HDR-FOX section so we already know that much. "No Video on HDMI After Startup" (for example) gives a much better idea.

* The relevant section is important. Because the forum software regards the sections as forums in their own right, the top level listing is not itself a forum and you cannot post in it (hence does not have a “Post New Thread” button). Please select the appropriate subject-specific forum or sub-forum for your new topic before attempting to Post New Thread.
In forum parlance, these are individual forums under the hummy.tv banner, but in fact we treat them as sections (or, if you like, sub-forums) of the forum
In case you are still unable to find the “Post New Thread” button :rolleyes:, see big green arrow here:

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Editing Your Posts

There is no need to panic if you have posted something and you spot a mistake or an omission. Editing (of your own posts) is available using the "Edit" link at the bottom of the relevant post (near the left, next to "Report"). It is not good form to alter a post in a material way after somebody has replied to it without drawing people's attention to you having altered it. You might, for example, add a note in the post as to what was updated, or post again to say that the previous post has been updated.

If you are the author of post 1 in a topic (ie you started the topic in the first place), you have additional privileges. At the top of the page, the topic title is available for editing.

Edits to existing posts do not count as "new", so people monitoring the forum for new content will not necessarily notice that the post has changed, and it is good etiquette to signpost the fact (or you may be accused of falsifying the record).

Tagging

It is possible to draw someone's attention to a post by tagging them in it. Prefix their forum name with "@" - the consequence will be that they receive an email alert (presuming they have alerts turned on in their personal settings) referencing the post they were tagged in.

Links (Web Pages and Email Addresses)

Email addresses and URLs are not permitted until the author has accumulated sufficient forum posts (currently 5, but this can be varied according to the level of threat). This is a means of discouraging spammers, so that newbies can't put inappropriate content in public view until they have a history of being "clean". The forum software will reject any post which contains, or appears to contain, links.

It's not an arduous condition, just be patient and make some approved posts to gain full privileges. Another forum I use requires the user to have made 250 posts before getting edit privileges!

Moderation

It is the job of the forum moderators to ensure business is conducted on the forum in a seemly and orderly way. They have powers above the normal user: able to edit other people's posts, delete posts, and move posts or whole topics to other sections when necessary and appropriate. Do not be offended if the moderators decide that a post has been put in the wrong section or could be better titled, or if other forum elders recommend that a post be moved - it is all a process of keeping the forum orderly and the information within as easy as possible to find.

The moderators are also responsible for sanctioning spammers - like it or not, forums are plagued by people (or robots) whose only aim is to create web links to their own inappropriate content in as many places as possible, or to build up a post history so that they gain the privileges to do so (links boost the ranking of linked pages in search engines). Registered users that can be identified as having this intention are summarily booted off, and it would be wise to avoid even appearing to have posted spam.

Even without crossing a line with the moderators, every individual forum user has the power to block your specific content as a form of personal moderation. So, if you annoy people sufficiently that they prefer not to see any of your posts, you will find yourself not reaching those who may be best placed to answer your questions. One way to annoy people is to not observe appropriate netiquette:

Netiquette (etiquette on the 'net)

Above all else, this forum in particular is very genteel compared with other forums, and we (the community) expect a decent standard of behaviour. Look through the posts and you will find little in the way of bad language, flaming, insults and derogatory comments, etc. Sometimes the occasional argument breaks out, as it will between people of contrary opinions, but you will also find the arguments (mainly) conducted in a seemly and erudite manner.

A few pointers on acceptable style:

POSTING IN CAPS IS SEEN AS SHOUTING - don't do it unless you wish to be ostracized for having a very loud mouth. Emphasis can be achieved by underlining, italicising, emboldening, or combinations of all three. (NB: the previous text is formatted to match the descriptions. If you do not see it like that, your browser or viewer software does not support the forum text formatting.)​
Excessive use of punctuation marks should also be avoided!!!!!!!!!!! (see what I mean) - little of what we discuss on the forum could be construed as life-threatening, so keep something in reserve for when it really is.​
You also presumably wish to have your post read by the widest possible audience, particularly if you are asking for help. That being the case, it is best to write clearly in normal written English, avoid txtspk, and punctuate so that what you write can be easily read and understood (don't forget - we have a wide age group on this forum, and the forum elders with the widest range of knowledge and experience will just glaze over when faced with a secret code only known 2 da kidz - I do anyway!).​
The best way of defusing an argument is not to argue. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and to express it, but having expressed it there is no need to repeat it. Your opinion is there for all to see, in a previous post, so don't say it again. And wait before posting. If things get heated, leave it for a few hours - or even the next day or two - before posting any reply. This avoids feeding the argument, and allows time for all parties to reflect and maybe realise it was all a misunderstanding (see also "Emoticons" below).

Another aspect of netiquette is the standardised use of abbreviations for commonplace expressions. A brief list of these is available in the Glossary (click), section Netiquette.

Emoticons ("Smilies")

It is very easy to be misinterpreted when text is your only means of communication, and relatively brief text at that. This is particularly true of users unused to forum posting, and possibly unused to being authors in general. Keeping to formal language and purely to the matter at hand will help, but everyone goes off into a bit of banter now and again, and the problem is to ensure that the intended meaning is how everyone reads it - don't forget that colloquial meanings, and precise connotations, of words vary from region to region, and the users on this forum span the whole of the UK (and beyond). It will be particularly difficult for users for whom English is not their first language.

It is rarely appropriate to write down exactly what you might say face to face with somebody. A great deal of communication goes on non-verbally in that situation. You might say something, how I react through facial expression or gesture will indicate to you whether a remark was taken as an insult or a joke, and you are then able to correct or reinforce the understanding through your own expression, body language, or what you say next. Writing is a one-way process - you only get feedback once you have committed your words to text and made them public, and then it is too late.

Careful use of written language is one defence against this problem. Another is the invention of "emoticons" - emotion icons. These originated in pure text, creating faces when viewed on their side. Thus:

:-) or :) smiling face;​
:-( or :( sad face;​
;-) or ;) wink;​
:-P or :P stick tongue out;​

etc.

The idea is that the user, if there is any risk that a remark may be misinterpreted, accompanies it with a suitable emoticon to indicate the non-verbal element of the message. The forum software provides actual graphics that will be substituted for recognised text smilies, or you can choose from a selection using the emoticon tool on the post editor toolbar (clicking the face icon opens a pick list at the bottom of the editor window). :) :( ;) :p

Images & Media

Sometimes an image can explain a problem (or a solution) far more effectively than mere words, and still image files such as JPG or PNG can be attached to a post and inserted into the post itself. Some browser/OS combinations allow a file to be dragged into the post directly, otherwise click the "upload a file" button below the editor window (if you don't see it, try "more options").

When uploaded, the file becomes an attachment to the post that readers can access. To display the image within the post itself: once the file had been uploaded, position the text cursor at the place you want to include the image and then insert by clicking "Thumbnail" or "Full Image". It is preferable to insert only a thumbnail wherever possible, as this reduces the displayed length of a topic and the download time on slow connections. Exceptions to this are only where the image is absolutely essential for even a casual reader of the discussion, in which case you must take care to ensure the image is not excessively large - a limit of 640 pixels horizontal will present on most screens without scrolling.

There is an upload size limit of 5MB per image file. If the file is larger than that, either convert it to a smaller file (eg reduce the resolution or the JPEG quality setting) or upload it to a photo hosting web site (eg Photobucket) or some other web space and see below.

Other document formats such as .txt and .pdf can also be attached to a post by this mechanism, but there is a limited range of file types that are permitted. A trick, if it should become necessary, to attach an "illegal" file type is to zip it, then rename the .zip file to .txt (and explain what you've done in the post). Zipping preserves the file information as well as its content into the .zip container file, so it is more secure than simply renaming the original file to .txt.

As noted above, inclusion of links in posts is not permitted until the user has accumulated sufficient post history. Once cleared, there are other options for including large images and other media - eg video - in posts, but the media has to be uploaded elsewhere on the Internet and referred to by link. The media button on the post editor (the icon looks like a couple of strips of photographic film) provides an input form for a link to the externally-hosted video, and presents a player window for it embedded in the post itself. In the event that your particular host is not supported, just insert the web link directly into the post without using the media tool.

Code Listings and Terminal Output

We prefer that instances of code dumps or screen captures from command line sessions etc are embedded within a code box. This has a few advantages: the fact that it is in a code box identifies it as separate from the discussion in the post; the font in the code box is fixed-pitch, so tabulated data lines up properly and everything looks as it would in a terminal window; the display of the code box when reading the post is restricted to a maximum width/length with scroll bars (tablet users can swipe within the widow) - this means that a casual reader with no need to view the detail of the code box text can easily scroll past it and not have a huge length of normal post text to find the end of.

For example:
Code:
60 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/3 The Spy Who Came In From The Cold (2 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
59 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/4 The Looking Glass War (2 of 2).ts - Already decrypted.
58 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/Smiley's People_20150127_2202.ts - Already decrypted.
57 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/8 The Secret Pilgrim (3 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
56 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/4 The Looking Glass War (1 of 2).ts - Already decrypted.
55 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/2 A Murder of Quality (1 of 1).ts - Already decrypted.
54 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/7 Smiley's People (3 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
53 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/8 The Secret Pilgrim (2 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
52 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/6 The Honourable Schoolboy (3 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
51 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/7 Smiley's People (2 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
50 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/5 Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (3 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
49 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/5 Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (1 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
48 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/7 Smiley's People (1 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
47 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/5 Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (2 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
46 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/6 The Honourable Schoolboy (2 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
45 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/Smiley's People_20150203_2200.ts - Already decrypted.
44 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/3 The Spy Who Came In From The Cold (3 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
43 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/Smiley's People_20150106_2208.ts - Already decrypted.
42 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/Smiley's People_20150210_2201.ts - Already decrypted.
41 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/6 The Honourable Schoolboy (1 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
40 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - /media/My Video/The Complete Smiley/8 The Secret Pilgrim (1 of 3).ts - Already decrypted.
39 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - DECRYPT: [/media/My Video/The Complete Smiley]
38 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/The Complete Smiley]
37 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/nfs/*Then edit options in folder]
36 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/nfs/*Create folder with mount name (opt+)]
35 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/nfs]
34 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/host=192_168_1_13]
33 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/mac=ABABABABABAB (only needed for wakeUp)]
32 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/domain=WORKGROUP]
31 25/09/2016 19:05:17 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/wakeConstantly?]
30 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/password=Password]
29 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/shareFolder=off]
28 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/user=User]
27 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/folder=My Video]
26 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3/wakeNow?]
25 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX3]
24 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/*Then edit options in folder]
23 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/mac=ABABABABABAB (only needed for wakeUp)]
22 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/wakeConstantly?]
21 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/host=192_168_1_14]
20 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/password=Password]
19 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/shareFolder=off]
18 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/user=User]
17 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/folder=My Video]
16 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/wakeNow?]
15 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4/domain=Domain or Workgroup]
14 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/HDRFOX4]
13 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb/*Create folder with mount name (opt+)]
12 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]/smb]
11 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - Special folder, overriding recursion.
10 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/[ModSettings]]
9 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - /media/My Video/Family Guy does Star Wars/Family Guy_20130718_2304.ts - Already decrypted.
8 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - /media/My Video/Family Guy does Star Wars/Family Guy_20130717_2302.ts - Already decrypted.
7 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - /media/My Video/Family Guy does Star Wars/Family Guy_20130716_2303.ts - Already decrypted.
6 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - DECRYPT: [/media/My Video/Family Guy does Star Wars]
5 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/Family Guy does Star Wars]
4 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - DECRYPT: [/media/My Video/Auto-Shrink]
3 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - [/media/My Video/Auto-Shrink]
2 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - /media/My Video/Weatherview/Weather for the Week Ahead_20160921_0030.ts - Already decrypted.
1 25/09/2016 19:05:16 - /media/My Video/Weatherview/Weather for the Week Ahead_20160923_0031.ts - Already decrypted.
This is achieved by selecting "code" from the post editor tool bar (on the icon that looks like a three dots - meaning "more options") and pasting the text into the dialogue box that appears, or create a code box directly by enclosing the text in [code]...[/code] tags. For info see Help >> BB Codes (bottom right corner of forum page) or http://hummy.tv/forum/help/bb-codes.

As mentioned above, you can go back and edit your posts to correct errors of presentation - so there's no excuse.

Post Formatting Tools

Further to the above, there is a wide variety of formatting available - not all of which is accessible from the WYSIWYG (What You see Is What You Get) editor toolbar. The forum software stores posts in a form of plain text encoding known as BB Code (BB = Bulletin Board, the old name for what we now call an Internet forum). We can write posts and include the BB Code formatting ourselves if we want to - just type it in and it will be interpreted in the editor (usually) and control the formatting when the post is displayed. See http://hummy.tv/forum/help/bb-codes for help to the options available.

We can also turn off the WYSIWYG editor, and see/edit the raw BB Code version of the post without interpretation. To do that, click the settings (cog wheel shape) icon at the right of the toolbar ("Use BB Code Editor") and the WYSIWYG toolbar greys out (becomes unavailable). To get back to WYSIWYG, click the settings icon again.

Even the emoticons have BB Code text equivalents, eg typing ";)" gets you a wink ;) . To make a section that would otherwise be interpreted as BB Code appear as-is, enclose it in [plain]...[/plain] tags.

Note that some forum viewing software (eg Tapatalk) does not support the full range of formatting, eg the strikeout code [S]...[/S], so posts can end up looking different in one viewer/browser to another. It used to be the case that WYSIWYG editing was not available to users of Safari on iOS, but that has been eliminated by a forum software update (but also note that the experience can be variable according to the exact combination of iOS version, browser, and iPad model). If the WYSIWYG editing isn't working for you, set your forum default to BB Code editing.

Predefined Signatures

Your forum settings allow you to create a signature panel that appears below each of your posts (but note that users can select whether they want to be shown sigs at all). It is useful to list things relevant to this forum in your sig panel, such as what (Humax) equipment you own. Then, in any particular discussion, it is often unnecessary to remind people what you've got and therefore the context of your comments or questions.

Unfortunately, some forum access software such as Tapatalk defaults to attaching its own signature text to the text of every post, in addition to any forum sig you may have set up. Unless the user changes it, it says something like "sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk". We don't want to know and don't care! Unlike forum signature panels, the reader has no option to turn it off other than to turn off all content you post, so please turn it off at your end (check the app settings).

"Likes"

On this forum we have just one method of indicating approval for a post, and that is the "Like" (some other forums have various types of Like - technical, informative, etc). What's more there is no "Dislike" (as much as some of us would like one) - although you can remove a Like you placed yourself. Adding or removing a Like is done by clicking the "Like" or "Unlike" link near the bottom right of the post (next to "Quote" and "Reply"). By Liking a post, your forum name is added to the list of likers, and the author of the post gets another kudos point.

Different users interpret the Like in different ways; but for guidance: in my opinion a Like should be awarded if a post shows endeavour, and merit, and is of particular interest/use to you, or if you are in strong agreement with an opinion (thereby removing the need to express support in a post), or is a particularly pithy remark or wise crack. Awarding Likes for minor posts risks devaluing the scheme (if it isn't devalued already).

Relatively few forum uses ever award Likes, possibly because they don't know about them or what that funny link is for. This is a pity, because a great number of people have found the content extremely useful at times, and ought to be giving a Like as a vote of thanks to the people who have toiled to create the content.

Private Conversations

"Conversations" is what this forum calls Private Messaging, and is rather like web-based email (although there can be multiple participants in a conversation). You can access your conversations through your control panel (click your username near the top right), and start a conversation with somebody by clicking their avatar and click "Start a Conversation".

It is not good forum etiquette to seek a personal reply to a problem through a conversation (and the reason I created this post in the first place). The forum is about sharing knowledge, and we contribute to the forum in the expectation that the knowledge becomes available to all. Also, an enquiry directed to one individual might not be within that individual's knowledge, or he might be off-line for a few days, so you would probably get a more informed answer more quickly by posting in the open forum than through a private message to somebody you don't know personally (and who will probably be irritated, as above).

Reserve conversations for discussing matters which are not ready for public consumption, and only with people you have already established a relationship with, unless you really are trying to address that person specifically.

In the event that, for some reason, you have been unable to understand and follow the instructions (above) for posting in an existing topic or starting a new topic, but are nonetheless somehow able to start a Conversation, please ask for instruction on posting on the forum rather than asking the question you intend to post on the forum!

...

If that is all clear, welcome to the club and enjoy the forum.
 
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Mike0001

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Could someone explain what bbcode is for? It seems even more cutdown than html. Is it just there to limit what we can type? Surely xml would achieve that?
 
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#5
It's been around for donkey's years, probably before anybody thought of XML. AFAIK it started as a very simple mark-up language and just grew. Post editors won't use HTML so that people can't play free and loose.
 

Mike0001

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#6
It was close.

XML 1996

BBcode 1998

SGML 1970s

As the latter is the parent of XML, the W3C version, the idea had been around for a long time before BBcode. HTML was of course a bastardized, degraded version of SGML.
 
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#7
XML needs a lot more parsing though, doesn't it? I can see why somebody needing a simple mark-up would go for a small set of pre-defined tags rather than a whole XML structure, and the servers of those days would not have been fast... Complexity gets layered on afterwards, rather than tearing it up and starting again.

By an amazing coincidence I had to dig into some XML only last night, as noted elsewhere.
 
#11
First time i have read this ....Is it ok to have topics about Astra 2 E,F,G satellite reception and general chatty type stuff like "whats the weather like" ..etc ? ...or is just Humax topics allowed ?
 
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#12
Anything goes in the Hummy Arms section, otherwise see the description for each forum section in the main listing. For your example, see the section called "Freesat".

If there is a subject area that is inappropriately missing, it can be set up.
 
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#14
Just start new threads in the Freesat section (instructions in the Newbies' Guide). Those subjects don't seem to justify entire sections of their own (which would require admin privileges to create).