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One of my Humax HDR Fox 2 has a mind of its own.

makem

makem

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I have two of these and both have identical settings and packages installed. However, one of them although left switched off by the remote ('click' heard after turning off), the following day the drive is spinning without an indication where the channel normally shows. The only thing showing is a feint blue light in the red ring.

This is obviously waste electricity and wearing out the drive. It appears the unit is starting up overnight and then not shutting down later. If I manually shut it down when I notice, it stays shut down until a recording is scheduled.

Power Saving in Standby: ON
Automatic Power Down: ON

Any suggestions where to start looking to prevent this happening?
 
Do you have any Power on, Reminder or Recording events in the schedule.

What do the logs say - start with Activity and Redring
 
I removed red-ring before you replied because I am now getting a red ring when the unit is switched off.

The schedules are Disable OTA 04:20, duration 00:20 and Sleep 05:15

I will check the logs later when I re-install red-ring to see if any difference.
 
I believe this can happen if you have a corrupt recording somewhere on the disk.
 
Re-installed re-ring and still getting a red ring when the unit is turned off.

Activity Log (excerpt of 80kb):

1224 22/10/2015 17:56:04 - System booted (Remote control handset).
1223 22/10/2015 05:12:30 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1222 22/10/2015 04:17:31 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1221 21/10/2015 05:12:35 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1220 21/10/2015 04:17:31 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1219 20/10/2015 05:12:31 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1218 20/10/2015 04:17:29 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1217 19/10/2015 21:33:46 - System booted (Remote control handset).
1216 19/10/2015 05:12:33 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1215 19/10/2015 04:17:38 - System booted (Scheduled event).
1214 18/10/2015 22:01:01 - Recorded: From Darkness/From Darkness (59 minutes - BBC ONE HD)

Red-ring Log (latest of 1mb):

5000 [RR] Tue Aug 4 22:00:12 2015: Setting LED level.
4999 [RR] Tue Aug 4 22:00:12 2015: Standby ring dim detected.
4998 [RR] Tue Aug 4 22:00:11 2015: Recording end 22.
4997 [RR] Tue Aug 4 22:00:10 2015: Changing to dim blue.
4996 [RR] Tue Aug 4 22:00:10 2015: System is in standby.
4995 [RR] Tue Aug 4 22:00:10 2015: REC icon off.
4994 [RR] Tue Aug 4 21:00:20 2015: Recording 1
4993 2100.nts'
4992 [RR] Tue Aug 4 21:00:20 2015: REC icon on.
4991 dby.
4990 [RR] Tue Aug 4 21:00:20 2015: Changing to red.
4989 [RR] Tue Aug 4 21:00:20 2015: Changing to red.
4988 [RR] Tue Aug 4 21:00:20 2015: System is in standby.
4987 [RR] Tue Aug 4 21:00:20 2015: REC icon on.
4986 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
prpr said:
I believe this can happen if you have a corrupt recording somewhere on the disk.
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I have 9.1GiB of personal photographs stored on there for many months and they have not caused a problem to my knowledge.

There is 55GiB of recorded tv.

Is it possible to check those?
 
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Why do you have a Sleep event at 5:15?
makem said:
I removed red-ring before you replied because I am now getting a red ring when the unit is switched off.

The schedules are Disable OTA 04:20, duration 00:20 and Sleep 05:15

I will check the logs later when I re-install red-ring to see if any difference.
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It is actually waking the system up according to your logs - not putting it to sleep - trying deleting it
 
I have disabled the 'sleep' but I feel there is more wrong than that. I will check the disk using maintenance mode as in the wiki.

Edit: Just noticed that although I deleted the 'sleep', on re-boot it was restored. There is a red circle with a red dot in it next to the entry.
 
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makem said:
I have disabled the 'sleep' but I feel there is more wrong than that. I will check the disk using maintenance mode as in the wiki.
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Stick with simple fixes first, there is no need to spend hours on disk checks without any evidence of disk faults
 
Check the Humax standard TV menu. Sounds like you have set the sleep via there (system, power management I think).
A sleep without a matching wake is known to cause this problem and the fact that you're able to put it to sleep with the remote rules out a corrupt recording. The logs show it waking up at the sleep time so there's no doubt this is your problem.
 
I am accessing the humax from xubuntu and there appear to be two identical copies of everything.

smb://one/

Directories: Media, My Music, My Photo, My Video

smb://one/media/

Directories: My Music, My Photo, My Video
 
af123 said:
Check the Humax standard TV menu. Sounds like you have set the sleep via there (system, power management I think).
A sleep without a matching wake is known to cause this problem and the fact that you're able to put it to sleep with the remote rules out a corrupt recording. The logs show it waking up at the sleep time so there's no doubt this is your problem.
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system, power management shows:

Power Saving in Standby: ON
Automatic Power Down: ON

No setting I can find for 'sleep'.

But I feel sure you are right as I remember in the distant past reading this.
 
makem said:
I am accessing the humax from xubuntu and there appear to be two identical copies of everything.

smb://one/

Directories: Media, My Music, My Photo, My Video

smb://one/media/

Directories: My Music, My Photo, My Video
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That's correct. The first lot are share names.The second lot really are directories (or symlinks to them anyway).
Here's the output from a Windoze box:
Code: 
>net view \\humax

Shared resources at \\humax
Samba HDR-Fox-T2
Share name  Type  Used as  Comment
--------------------------------------------------
Media       Disk  Media
My Music    Disk  My Music
My Photo    Disk  My Photo
My Video    Disk  My Video
The command completed successfully.

>dir \\humax\media

Volume in drive \\humax\media is Media
Volume Serial Number is 05BE-044F

Directory of \\humax\media

01/01/1970  01:00  <DIR>  .
05/03/2015  00:22  <DIR>  ..
25/01/2013  15:47  <DIR>  My Photo
26/09/2015  18:08  <DIR>  My Music
22/10/2015  19:28  <DIR>  My Video
  0 File(s)  0 bytes
  5 Dir(s)  64,008,192 bytes free
 
af123 said:
Settings -> Preferences -> Time -> Power Off Timer
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Thank you.

Set an 'ON' earlier than the 'sleep'. Not, the ON does not show in the webif Scheduled events.

I still have a red ring when the unit is powered off and a feint time showing.The drive has stopped though.

I will leave it over night.
 
I see.

Don't know how to get a list like that from a terminal on a networked xubuntu . The output I use is graphical.

I am trying to leave windoze behind and only have internet explorer to dump now.
 
makem said:
Don't know how to get a list like that from a terminal on a networked xubuntu . The output I use is graphical.
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I don't think you can, if you're using something newer than Samba 3. See here, but nobody seemed very bothered judging by the number of replies.
 
There seems to be a problem with the Power On Timer.

I set it with a time and there is a corresponding Power Off Timer. I can view both in the Scheduled Events via webif.

When I then reboot the Power On Timer reverts to off and refreshing the Scheduled events web page shows it is now missing.

I cannot set a Power On Timer, maybe that has happened for some reason and as af123 says, that is the problem. I now wonder at the cause.

Perhaps the setting has feinted or is feinting :p

Edit: Is there a significance in the numbers of the Scheduled Event list? Disable OTA was 1, next was Wake Up at 0 and last, Sleep at 2.

Using the up/down arrow I now have them in order 0, 1, 2 but they are out of time order and I cannot change it.

I would have thought they should be in time order.
 
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