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Problem reloading firmware

#1
I noticed recently that I am no longer being offered the HD option on BBC iPlayer. I decided to try re-installing the 1.02.07 firmware from a USB stick. I used the same USB stick from which that version of the firmware had originally been installed. I downloaded the firmware anew from the Humax web site. When I turned the power on to the box with the USB stick in place I got an "E-ID" error. It says I need to press the standby button to restart but that results in the same error unless I remove the USB stick.

Any ideas? Might a factory reset help?
 

af123

Administrator
Staff member
#2
An E-ID error indicates that the software update you're trying to apply is for a different machine. (The system ID embedded within the software update doesn't match the System ID of your box). It could be that you've downloaded the wrong firmware, or that the file is corrupt in some way, or that you didn't unzip it after download (I've seen some people just rename the .zip to HDR_FOX_T2_upgrade.hdf)
 
#3
Hmm... Well, I downloaded the firmware yet again and tried again. Same result. I ran a factory reset and tried again. Same result. It is 100% definitely the HDR-Fox T2 firmware that I am downloading - the release notes refer to the FTP server and the portal.

The loader version on the box is a7.30. The system ID is 80BC7E01.

The good news is that the HD option in iPlayer has returned. Navigating the menus in iPlayer is still dog slow though.
 

af123

Administrator
Staff member
#4
The system ID is 80BC7E01.
The system ID in the firmware from the download site is 80bc.7e00 - does yours definitely have a 1 at the end?

If so, then that's why you're getting bad ID, but I don't know why your system ID would have changed.
 
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betablocker

#6
Hi

I've been lurking here for awhile but want to say I've got this problem to. Without giving away too mcuh my user name gives a clue about where the firmware on my HDR atm came from. I want to go back to the last official release but I get the eid error the id on thsystem info scrn on the hummy has a 1 at the end. How can I chnage my id back to the right one?
 

af123

Administrator
Staff member
#7
How can I chnage my id back to the right one?
You could use the humidify tool to repackage the official HDF to work with your new system ID. That will allow you to load the official firmware back on and it should revert the system ID too.

Code:
$ ls
HDR_FOX_T2_upgrade.hdf
$ humidify -x HDR_FOX_T2_upgrade.hdf
HDF Tool v1.0.0, by af123, 2011.

Opening HDR_FOX_T2_upgrade.hdf, 17598758 bytes.

  Blocks:    542
  Model:      4
  System ID:  80bc.7e00

x  1.hdfbin-1-000000.raw          (15736832 bytes)
x  2.hdfbin-1-1e00000.raw        (1914272 bytes)

Processed in: 0.76s

$ humidify -c HDR_FOX_T2_upgrade.hdf 80bc.7e00-80bc.7e01 1.hdfbin-1-000000.raw 2.hdfbin-1-1e00000.raw

Adding 1.hdfbin-1-000000.raw (15736832 bytes).............  0.36% compression
Adding 2.hdfbin-1-1e00000.raw (1914272 bytes).............  0.14% compression

Processed in: 3.57s

$ humidify -t HDR_FOX_T2_upgrade.hdf
...
  System ID:  80bc.7e00 - 80bc.7e01
 
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betablocker

#8
Thanks for taht, but your link doesn't work for me. If I can download the softwear, can I run those commands on any unix system or does it have to be on the hummy?

Edit: worked this tiem, runs on anything, cool! Will def give it a try.
 

ChrisDaniels

Well-Known Member
#9
If the firmware on the public beta site has been packaged up wrong by Humax, someone should tell them..
However, if this is what they do to closed beta f/w to stop it being distributed, its crafty lol but it locks the user into using the beta until Humax gives them a f/w to change back their sys id.

I'm presumming its the latter - they're a bit over-protective regarding f/w. I think they need to remind themselves its a settop box and not a PS3.
 

af123

Administrator
Staff member
#11
However, if this is what they do to closed beta f/w to stop it being distributed, its crafty lol but it locks the user into using the beta until Humax gives them a f/w to change back their sys id.
Yes, it's difficult to know exactly why they did it. Presumably the first beta software changed the system ID so would have itself had to apply to a standard HDR with the original system ID. After that, the beta testers are locked onto the beta software train until Humax give them a firmware that changes it back again.

I haven't looked but it's very probable that the system ID is actually in the boot loader (which Humax have never publically released for the HDR). That could mean that the original firmware is actually incompatible with the new bootloader. In case that's true, I'd make sure you have a copy of the software you're running now (the beta) so you can re-install it if necessary.

It will be interesting to see whatever happens!
 

raydon

Well-Known Member
#12
Yes, it's difficult to know exactly why they did it. Presumably the first beta software changed the system ID so would have itself had to apply to a standard HDR with the original system ID. After that, the beta testers are locked onto the beta software train until Humax give them a firmware that changes it back again.
Correct af123, The non-standard System ID is somehow tied into portal access to Sky player. Standard system ID does not see the Sky Player option. And reflashing 1.02.07 does not reset the system ID. Beta testers are locked into 80bc.7e01.
 
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betablocker

#13
Tahnks everyone for yr help. I ran humidify on the 1.02.07 firmware like af123 said and that worked fine. It installed on the hummy OK as well :) System info says firmware version is 1.02.07 but ID is still 80BC7E01. Portal still has skyplayer like raydon said :( coz I think its alot slower.
 

af123

Administrator
Staff member
#14
Good to know it worked :) At least you're back on the stable firmware for now, apart from whatever modified the system ID.
 
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betablocker

#15
OK lats nite took it all the way back to 1.01.04 then back up to 07. HAd to use humidfy each tiem to get it to load. System id is was always 80BC7E01. Got ftp and portal back with 07 but portal is still skyplayer one.

hdf info for 1.01.07:

Blocks: 542
Model: 4
System ID: 80bc.7e00

File Offset Address Type Flags Size Uncompressed Size
---- ------ ------- ---- ----- ---- -----------------
1 0000014 0000000 1 0x80 15680492 15736832 (0.36%)
2 0ef5ab8 1e00000 1 0x80 1911678 1914272 (0.14%)

for 1st skyplyer beta:

Blocks: 556
Model: 4
System ID: 80bc.7e00 - 80bc.7e01

File Offset Address Type Flags Size Uncompressed Size
---- ------ ------- ---- ----- ---- -----------------
1 0000014 0000000 2 0 4 -
2 0000050 0000000 1 0x80 16085677 16138240 (0.33%)
3 0f58a45 1e00000 1 0x80 1911729 1914323 (0.14%)

2nd:

Blocks: 625
Model: 4
System ID: 80bc.7e00 - 80bc.7e01

File Offset Address Type Flags Size Uncompressed Size
---- ------ ------- ---- ----- ---- -----------------
1 0000014 0000000 2 0 4 -
2 0000050 0000000 1 0x80 16180944 16236544 (0.34%)
3 0f6fe8c 1e00000 1 0x80 1911673 1914265 (0.14%)
4 1142cf5 1a00000 3 0x80 750121 2097152 (64.23%)

not sure what this all means tbh.
 
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