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[RS] advanced rules problem

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digitl

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I've spent a long time today trying to get my head round writing advanced rules in RS.

My rule for finding and recording Formula 1 broadcasts looks like

or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 lcn 109 lcn 101 lcn 102 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents

and if I click on the 'Matching Events' button I can see that it finds all of the broadcasts I want it to find. However, it's not scheduling any on the box.

Anyone any idea on what the problem might be?
 
I set this up as a test to see what happened (removed LCNs apart from 104).
I got this email (although 6 of 9 items are now in the past):
Code: 
Channel 4 HD [Sat, 01 Oct 2016 06:55:00 +0100 / 01:10]
  F1 Malaysian GP Practice 3 Live
  Lee McKenzie introduces live coverage of the third and final
  practice session for the Malaysian Grand Prix as Hamilton
  and Rosberg continue their punch, counter-punch battle for
  the title.  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sat, 01 Oct 2016 09:00:00 +0100 / 02:30]
  F1 Malaysian GP Qualifying Live
  Hamilton looks to make it three straight poles in Sepang,
  Rosberg wants to improve on third in the grid and 2015's
  winner Vettel hopes to shut the door on both. Steve Jones
  presents.  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sat, 01 Oct 2016 16:30:00 +0100 / 02:00]
  F1 Malaysian GP Qualifying Replay
  Another chance to see all the qualifying action for the
  Malaysian Grand Prix, as Lewis Hamilton looks to take his
  third consecutive pole at the Sepang International Circuit.
  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sat, 01 Oct 2016 11:30:00 +0100 / 00:30]
  Murray Walker Meets Jenson Button
  2009 Formula 1 World Champion Jenson Button gives an honest,
  emotional and funny interview with legendary broadcaster
  Murray Walker covering the milestones of his extraordinary
  career.  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:00:00 +0100 / 03:45]
  F1 Malaysian Grand Prix Live
  In the battle for the title, Rosberg has his nose in front
  of Hamilton once more, but Mercedes didn't dominate here
  last year when Vettel took the chequered flag. Steve Jones
  presents.  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:50:00 +0100 / 02:40]
  F1 Malaysian GP Replay
  Another chance to see all the action from the Malaysian
  Grand Prix where Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg continue
  their intense battle for the 2016 Formula 1 world title.
  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sat, 01 Oct 2016 11:30:00 +0100 / 00:30]
  David Coulthard Meets Christian...
  ...Horner: David Coulthard talks to Red Bull Racing Team
  Principal Christian Horner about the rise, reign and future
  of one of the most successful Formula 1 teams in recent
  history.
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sat, 08 Oct 2016 12:30:00 +0100 / 01:30]
  F1 Japanese GP Qualifying...
  ...Highlights: Qualifying is key at narrow, twisty Suzuka,
  where Lewis Hamilton is targeting a joint-record fourth win
  as his championship battle with Nico Rosberg reaches its
  final stages.  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>

Channel 4 HD [Sun, 09 Oct 2016 13:30:00 +0100 / 02:00]
  F1 Japanese GP Highlights
  Suzuka is the perfect stage for Lewis Hamilton and Nico
  Rosberg to continue their intense championship battle as
  2016 approaches its climax. Rosberg took pole last year but
  Hamilton won it.  [S]
  === Scheduled successfully (event). (or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents) ===
  http://hpkg.tv/<censored>
and this in the rs.log file (the lack of timestamps is a bit dull as there are loads of errors preceeding this, but no idea when they happened):
Code: 
247   Processing command 'schedule auto'
248   *Schedule 17664/47169/1/104/Channel 4 HD/1475301300/F1 Malaysian GP Practice 3 Live
249   *Trying source service/event ID.
250   *LATEST: 1476050700, TIME: 1475301300
251   *Trying events at the original event time @17664
252   *Trying event at the same time on service 17664.
253   !Error, cannot find event to schedule.
254   Processing command 'schedule auto'
255   *Schedule 17664/47171/1/104/Channel 4 HD/1475308800/F1 Malaysian GP Qualifying Live
256   *Trying source service/event ID.
257   *LATEST: 1476050700, TIME: 1475308800
258   *Trying events at the original event time @17664
259   *Trying event at the same time on service 17664.
260   !Error, cannot find event to schedule.
261   Processing command 'schedule auto'
262   *Schedule 17664/47176/1/104/Channel 4 HD/1475335800/F1 Malaysian GP Qualifying Replay
263   *Trying source service/event ID.
264   *LATEST: 1476050700, TIME: 1475335800
265   *Trying events at the original event time @17664
266   *Trying event at the same time on service 17664.
267   !Error, cannot find event to schedule.
Nothing mentioned in the email is in the schedule, so something's broken.
These 3 events are not the same 3 that you'd expect from the 9 above, but rather just the first 3. This explains why they can't be found, as they are in the past, but why aren't there another 6 entries in the log?
 
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May or may not be relevant but I found that Channel 4 HD was not showing in the RS epg yesterday...
However when I scheduled the qualifying for the Grand Prix in Japan next Saturday on WebIf it appeared in the RS schedule okay
 
C4 HD was showing here yesterday so I don't think that the problem lies there.

I hadn't realised that Rs only runs at 09:00 each day and had disabled the advanced searches overnight in favour of some standard searches which I had reinstated. I've reversed that now and will see what happens.
 
Both standard and advanced automatic scheduling is only run once a day which is normally OK since it will add items to the schedule a week ahead of the event. It is only something you need to be aware of when adding new rules or late additions to the schedule.
For items that are already in the near future it is best to add them to the recording schedule from the epg and not depend on the auto scheduling.

Now might be a good time to remind af123 of your other thread and that you can't currently create reminder events via auto scheduling
 
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If it helps in tracking down the problem, this advanced rule worked overnight:
or {lcn 101 lcn 102 } title {*the apprentice*} action scheduleevents
but
or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 lcn 109 lcn 101 lcn 102 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents
failed again.
 
Last night's log says that the events were found but had already been processed in the past. That's based on the CRIDs assigned by the broadcaster. Did you get email from the overnight processing?

Code: 
Processing device HDR-Fox T2 (fr*** - dc:d3:21:**:**:**) - humaxpvr@s**.net
 *Auto 11972 - or {title *F1* title {*Formula 1*} title {*Formula one*} synopsis *F1* synopsis {*Formula 1*} synopsis {*Formula one*} } or {lcn 104 lcn 109 lcn 101 lcn 102 } !synopsis *gillette* !title {*mobil 1*} action scheduleevents
    F1 Malaysian Grand Prix Live Channel 4 HD [Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:00:00 +0100 / 03:45]
      In the battle for the title, Rosberg has his nose in front of Hamilton
      ! Already processed.
    F1 Malaysian GP Replay Channel 4 HD [Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:50:00 +0100 / 02:40]
      Another chance to see all the action from the Malaysian Grand Prix whe
      ! Already processed.
    F1 Malaysian Grand Prix Live Channel 4+1 HD [Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:00:00 +0100 / 03:45]
      In the battle for the title, Rosberg has his nose in front of Hamilton
      ! Already processed.
    F1 Malaysian GP Replay Channel 4+1 HD [Sun, 02 Oct 2016 17:50:00 +0100 / 02:40]
      Another chance to see all the action from the Malaysian Grand Prix whe
      ! Already processed.
    F1 Japanese GP Qualifying... Channel 4 HD [Sat, 08 Oct 2016 12:30:00 +0100 / 01:30]
      ...Highlights: Qualifying is key at narrow, twisty Suzuka, where Lewis
      ! Already processed.
    F1 Japanese GP Qualifying... Channel 4+1 HD [Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:30:00 +0100 / 01:30]
      ...Highlights: Qualifying is key at narrow, twisty Suzuka, where Lewis
      ! Already processed.
    F1 Japanese GP Highlights Channel 4 HD [Sun, 09 Oct 2016 13:30:00 +0100 / 02:00]
      Suzuka is the perfect stage for Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg to con
      ! Already processed.
    F1 Japanese GP Highlights Channel 4+1 HD [Sun, 09 Oct 2016 14:30:00 +0100 / 02:00]
      Suzuka is the perfect stage for Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg to con
      ! Already processed.

You can reset the previous matches using the buttons alongside the rule.
 
Thanks, I got the overnight email and it confirmed that the 'The Apprentice' had been set. There was no mention of the Formula One broadcasts but that may have been down to them having previously been set: I had cancelled the recordings to check if the advanced rule would set them.

I wasn't aware of the need to reset the matches so I've done that now and will see what happens overnight.

And... have you had any thoughts on my enquiry on 'the other thread'?
 
I reset both the F1 advanced search and The Apprentice.

I have received an email to say The Apprentice has been set but nothing regarding F1. Hope that helps.
 
digitl said:
I have received an email to say The Apprentice has been set but nothing regarding F1. Hope that helps.
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Can you post your box identifier so I can look in the logs? It's shown on the Settings page as Unique Identifier.
 
Help with a different problem please...

I'm not sure that
or {title *BTTC* title {*British Touring Car*} synopsis *BTTC* synopsis {*British Touring Car*} } or {lcn 103 lcn 24 } day Sunday action scheduleevents
will do what I want it to do.

My intention is to find and schedule only recordings that are
on channel 103
or
on channel 24 and only on a Sunday.

Will it?

The way I read it in the Advanced Rules display is that it will match
channel 103
or
channel 24
or
Sunday
 
You read it wrong then. It quite clearly says "and" on the left hand side, so it will do what you want.

rs.png
 
I read it as
if it was channel 103 or 24
and
Sunday
then it would match.

Perhaps the indent on the Sunday line indicates that the 'and' on that line is attached only to the channel 24 line and not the channel 103 line as well?
 
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digitl said:
I read it as
if it was channel 103 or 24
and
Sunday
then it would match.
Click to expand...
Right. You need:

or {title *BTTC* title {*British Touring Car*} synopsis *BTTC* synopsis {*British Touring Car*} } or {lcn 103 and {lcn 24 day Sunday } } action scheduleevents

which looks like this:

2016-10-13 09_44_47-hpkg.tv Remote Scheduling.png
 
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