Sagemcom BT/EE TV Box Pro

Happy with mine, the only disappointment is unable to watch hbbtv channels ie Euro News or France 24 via the channel guide.
If its not part of the Freeview line up, then you will not be able to watch it on the EE box without subscription.

The Guide shows the full channel line up regardless of whether you have EE TV Subscription or not and tells you if you need a Subscription if you select one of those channels.
 
The Guide shows the full channel line up regardless of whether you have EE TV Subscription or not and tells you if you need a Subscription if you select one of those channels.
Whether or not the EE/BT subscription channels are listed depends on which ISP you use. If your box was to be connected to a non BT Group broadband then they wouldn't be included in the epg.
 
Whether or not the EE/BT subscription channels are listed depends on which ISP you use. If your box was to be connected to a non BT Group broadband then they wouldn't be included in the epg.
Ahh, interesting I didn’t realise that. It must be as you say because we have EE FTTP broadband that I am seeing all the extra channels, but we have never subscribed to EE TV.

I thought the extra channels were all there because these boxes are only supplied by BT/EE when you subscribe to EE TV and they were ‘baked in’ to the guide.
 
Ahh, interesting I didn’t realise that. It must be as you say because we have EE FTTP broadband that I am seeing all the extra channels, but we have never subscribed to EE TV.

I thought the extra channels were all there because these boxes are only supplied by BT/EE when you subscribe to EE TV and they were ‘baked in’ to the guide.
Its been like that since the start of youview, and this behaviour has carried forward to the Sagemcom boxes.

I you were to get hold of a pre-sagemcom retail youview box (but not the T1000 or T1010 as they have been knobbled), on gaining access to the internet the box would check which ISP it was using and download the part of the youview software that is ISP related, usually within an hour but can be longer. It too would then show the BT/EE subscription channels. The box would revert itself once it was connected via a non BT Group ISP, but again it can take a few hours.
 
My only knowledge of YouView is from years ago reading articles where it didn’t seem very popular, therefore I wasn’t sure how good the EE box would be, but I have been very pleasantly surprised.

Let’s hope EE doesn’t decide to cripple/deactivate all the non subscribers :cautious:
 
I am looking to buy the EE TV box Pro on Amazon, there are two on there at the moment with same price from same seller, what is the difference between them?

EE TV Box Pro 4K HDR Set Top Box Recorder 1TB Storage Subscription Free Youview Receiver

BT/EE TV Box Pro - 1TB 4K Wireless Freeview TV Box Latest Model - (RTIW387)
 
I purchased mine from TopGeezer and chose the Ad that just said EE as I didn’t want to chance getting the BT version which is the previous style.

They both receive the same update and have the same functionality, so it’s personal preference as to which design you prefer. RTIW387 is what mine (EE) is called.

Drop him a message if in doubt, he is very quick to respond.
 
I purchased mine from TopGeezer and chose the Ad that just said EE as I didn’t want to chance getting the BT version which is the previous style.

They both receive the same update and have the same functionality, so it’s personal preference as to which design you prefer. RTIW387 is what mine (EE) is called.

Drop him a message if in doubt, he is very quick to respond.
Thanks for the reply, unfortunately Topgeezer isn't advertising at the moment, the two above are from SMART HOME & MOBILITY UK
I have tried to find Topgeezer to see if he has any as I have read good reviews about him.
I will pose the question to Smart Home & Mobility in the meantime.
 
Probably covered already but in case not -no not humax - made by sagecom
Sagemcom was formerly Sagem Communications, part of the Sagem group (French). I'm content to leave it as Sagem in the title – what does everyone else think?
 
I am looking to buy the EE TV box Pro on Amazon, there are two on there at the moment with same price from same seller, what is the difference between them?

EE TV Box Pro 4K HDR Set Top Box Recorder 1TB Storage Subscription Free Youview Receiver

BT/EE TV Box Pro - 1TB 4K Wireless Freeview TV Box Latest Model - (RTIW387)
As far as I can gather the BT and EE (later model) have exactly the same model number and have identical innards - it is just the case and the illuminated logo which actually changed
 
Cracked it, press and hold the right side of the jog wheel and it jumps 60 seconds at a time for as long as you hold it.

I have found to jump a four minute break I press and hold and count three jumps then let go as it does one extra one when I let go.
Well done. I dug out my BT remote and after much experimenting discovered the same trick as you did.

Very strange. I was slightly surprised at the number of posts over this. Details are in my copy of the user guide, but looking at the latest EE user guide for the box that detail is not included.
BT TV Pro Box User Guid skip buttons.jpg
I will see how I get on as you do have to have lightening reactions to get the right number :laugh:
you need pretty good reactions to get it right
If you don't mind forgoing using bluetooth, the old youview remotes for the Humax youview manufactured boxes will work the Sagemcom.

The BT/Plusnet with the large red crosses should be totally avoided. These are newer versions of the BT/Plusnet with the silver navigation button, and they have an issue in that it very easy to press the wrong navigation button instead of the one you are after. These versions of the BT slim remotes are easily recognised as they have black navigation buttons.
Both the "Humax Retail" and the chunky remote have slightly awkward layouts. For the "Humax Retail" I am suspicious of its longevity.
There as another BT remote which looks similar to the chunky remote, but doesn’t include the blue youview (home) button, and that remote will NOT work. If purchasing that look carefully at the pictures as some sellers have been known to misdescribe these remotes.

Youview H&S remotes.jpg
Connecting a keyboard to the Sagemcom box and there are a couple of options dependant on the keyboard. I used to use a wireless min multimedia keyboard and use these. A keyboard also gives direct access to the recordings via F4. Also the I key can be used to display the programme info Youview keyboard skip.jpg

Pity the BT box doesn't allow you to choose the duration of the jumps as the Humax boxes do....
It use to, but that disappeared from the menus, and also changed anyone who had something other than 15 secs back and 1 minute forward to revert back to those times.
I'm using a universal remote control (Humax) which might confuse the issue. < and > buttons are for fast reverse/forward, << and >> buttons are for skip backwards/forwards on my remote. I'm pretty sure those buttons map to the same buttons on the BT/EE remote.
If the << and >> buttons on the universal remote can't use along press, or hasn't been setup to do a long press then it won't work.

On a sightly different note, I see that the EE TV basic guide does include how to make larger jumps when playing back recordings. That was omitted on the initial guides for the pro box.
Pro box large jumps.jpg
 
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That is most useful, thank you.

I do have the chunky remote as well as the standard EE provided one - not sure if it has the Blue Youview button - will check tomorrow in anticipation.

Does the last bit about percentage jumps apply to the standard remote and the chunky one - I remember one of my satellite boxes would do that, never thought to try on anything else? Would be really useful when on the odd occasion the box decides to revert to the start of the recording when you are skipping adverts!

The keyboard functions are especially impressive - trouble is how would you remember them all without altering the keyboard legends?
 
Just a thought, since this hijacked part of the previous Humax thread has been given it's own thread there has been more interest and activity, and the original thread is a bit "high and dry"

Possibly because people are getting the news that the "new" Aura is probably even less functional than the original Aura - still waiting for an update!
 
Does the last bit about percentage jumps apply to the standard remote and the chunky one - I remember one of my satellite boxes would do that, never thought to try on anything else?
Yes, and also applies to the keyboard.

That is most useful, thank you.
The keyboard functions are especially impressive - trouble is how would you remember them all without altering the keyboard legends?
I personally, did not have much difficulty with that as most of them are pretty much how I would have allocated.
A noticeable exception are the delete and backspace keys’ assignments.
To my mind swapping the assignment made to the backspace and delete keys would have been easier to remember, especially as the old remotes use the same remote button for subtitles and deletion.
 
Sagemcom was formerly Sagem Communications, part of the Sagem group (French). I'm content to leave it as Sagem in the title – what does everyone else think?
That Sagemcom was formerly Sagem Communications, and was part of the Safran (French) when it was sold off.
And that the "Sagem" in this thread's title stands out like a sore thumb.
 
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