Quite odd really. On the occasion of the previous retune (9/9 I think) the Hummy did it's auot-search thing (I had no idea in advance anything was going to happen, as I don't frequent here unless I have problems!!) and, apart from all the dross returninf to the EPG and of course the deletion of all scheduled recordings, all was well. The EPG looked fine, and ITV1, Ch4 and Ch5 were 3rd, 4th and 5th in the list of available channels WITH EPG information, as expected. (I should add the we can allegedly recieve from Oxford, Crystal Palace and Sandy Heath. When the DSO happened we got channels from all 3 but the CP and SH ones soon dropped out of their own accord, and looking at the Digital UK postcode checker they haven't had a 17/10 retune event. Oxford has (I was away on business untile late yesterday, so asked wife to leave the Hummy on and let it do it's thing as it worked ok the last time (sigh)), and now I have BBC1 & 2 as lines 1 & 2 on my EPG WITH EPG content shown, but lines 3,4 & 5, although headed ITV1, Ch4 & Ch5 have NO EPG content shown - that's now against duplicate listings in the 800's. I thought 800's were from a different tranmitter, but I can't understand why the Hummy would pick 2 channels from one transmitter and 3 from another (though I can quite believe it bloody well would/could!!) A simple explanation would be helpful , thanks. I have looked at the instructions for a manual retune, but that won't, I don't think, get the EPG sorted so channels 1 through 5 are vack at the top of the EPG listing. I will admit I was knackered, so haven't checked to see if selecting line 3 on the EPG (ITV1 with no programme info) actually gets me ITV1!