Trialling 'RT3070' Dongles

Black Hole · Aug 18, 2023

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I bought two of these, tried the first one and it worked... briefly. I got a connection set up, and then after a few minutes a message popped up on the screen "USB device has encountered an error. Remove the USB to prevent system failure."

It feels warm, so I guess it is exceeding the permitted current.

The second one seems to be OK (so far!). Bloody ugly though!

This is after the first delivery failed to turn up, and I got a refund and re-ordered.

Listing photos:

Black Hole · Aug 23, 2023

A third didn't work at all, and a fourth did the work for a short time and then get hot with the "encountered an error" message routine.

Heads up: these Chinese-sourced penguin-coloured doobries with adverts all over Amazon and eBay are essentially crap, I have one working out of four tested.

I had to send them back to get a refund, but I would have liked to hang on to one to see what's in it (I might just do that even though the one I'm left with works). I find it difficult to believe they contain genuine RT3070 chips, so it would not surprise me if there is a micro or something pretending to be an RT3070.

prpr · Aug 23, 2023

Black Hole said:
these Chinese-sourced penguin-coloured doobries with adverts all over Amazon and eBay are essentially crap

Is this really a surprise? Fakes/scams/spams are rife. Finally the Chinese bubble seems to be about to burst and not before time.

bottletop · Aug 24, 2023

Black Hole said:
A third didn't work at all, and a fourth did the work for a short time and then get hot with the "encountered an error" message routine.

Heads up: these Chinese-sourced penguin-coloured doobries with adverts all over Amazon and eBay are essentially crap, I have one working out of four tested.

I had to send them back to get a refund, but I would have liked to hang on to one to see what's in it (I might just do that even though the one I'm left with works). I find it difficult to believe they contain genuine RT3070 chips, so it would not surprise me if there is a micro or something pretending to be an RT3070.

Sorry for suggesting that. I genuinely thought it was a useful alternative.
Did you source the 4 penguins from more than one seller?
I notice some listing shows it as having RT3070L, I wonder if that's significant?

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

bottletop said:
Sorry for suggesting that. I genuinely thought it was a useful alternative.

Not your fault, I went in with eyes open for trial purposes.

bottletop said:
Did you source the 4 penguins from more than one seller?

Yes, but I don't think there's any reason to believe they come from more than one supplier!

prpr said:
Is this really a surprise? Fakes/scams/spams are rife. Finally the Chinese bubble seems to be about to burst and not before time.

Is it though? As per the "2TB" (cough) UPD for a fiver, there seems to be enough money in people being too lazy to demand their money back that the scam is worthwhile. I can find no way to report my purchase to eBay as a scam – the seller just refunded without quibble, so as far as eBay is concerned it's case closed.

What's surprising is that the one working unit (out of four) is still working several days later, so they're not total rip-offs. Perhaps they are a genuine attempt to make an RT3070-compatible dongle (to feed the set-top box market) but just not adequately tested or using the consumer as production test (or, cynically, finding they had too great a rejection rate).

Anyway, I'm now trying another "RT3070" dongle which might turn out to be another penguin but in guillemot plumage.

RobH1 · Aug 24, 2023

Black Hole said:
Anyway, I'm now trying another "RT3070" dongle which might turn out to be another penguin but in guillemot plumage.

As a birder I appreciate that analogy

prpr · Aug 24, 2023

bottletop said:
I notice some listing shows it as having RT3070L, I wonder if that's significant?

It might be useful for BH to run sudo lsusb -v on all of them (and on a genuine one) on his Linux box, for comparison purposes.

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

Too late!

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

prpr said:
It might be useful for BH to run sudo lsusb -v on all of them (and on a genuine one) on his Linux box, for comparison purposes.

This is a "good" dongle I've been using for some time. Curious the properties don't mention "RT3070" specifically, the driver class must be encoded somewhere (perhaps the "0x3071"?):

Code:

Bus 001 Device 004: ID 07b8:3071 AboCom Systems Inc 802.11n/b/g Mini Wireless LAN USB2.0 Adapter
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x07b8 AboCom Systems Inc
  idProduct          0x3071 802.11n/b/g Mini Wireless LAN USB2.0 Adapter
  bcdDevice            1.01
  iManufacturer           1 Ralink
  iProduct                2 802.11 n WLAN
  iSerial                 3 1.0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength       0x0035
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              450mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           5
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface              5 1.0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
  bLength                10
  bDescriptorType         6
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  bNumConfigurations      1
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

This is the working penguin:

Code:

Bus 001 Device 013: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x148f Ralink Technology, Corp.
  idProduct          0x3070 RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
  bcdDevice            1.01
  iManufacturer           1 Ralink
  iProduct                2 802.11 n WLAN
  iSerial                 3 1.0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength       0x0043
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              450mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           7
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface              5 1.0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x05  EP 5 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x06  EP 6 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
  bLength                10
  bDescriptorType         6
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  bNumConfigurations      1
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

This is the Edimax I'm using on Zen (not HDR-compatible):

Code:

Bus 003 Device 002: ID 7392:7711 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x7392 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd
  idProduct          0x7711 EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
  bcdDevice            1.01
  iManufacturer           1 Ralink
  iProduct                2 802.11 n WLAN
  iSerial                 3 1.0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength       0x0043
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              450mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           7
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface              5 1.0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x05  EP 5 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x06  EP 6 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
  bLength                10
  bDescriptorType         6
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  bNumConfigurations      1
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

This is another unbranded dongle I took a punt on, it works on a general PC but not the Humax:

Code:

Bus 001 Device 014: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.01
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x148f Ralink Technology, Corp.
  idProduct          0x7601 MT7601U Wireless Adapter
  bcdDevice            0.00
  iManufacturer           1 (error)
  iProduct                2 802.11 n WLAN
  iSerial                 3 1.0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength       0x004a
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              160mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           8
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x84  EP 4 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x85  EP 5 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x08  EP 8 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x05  EP 5 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x06  EP 6 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x07  EP 7 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x09  EP 9 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
Binary Object Store Descriptor:
  bLength                 5
  bDescriptorType        15
  wTotalLength       0x000c
  bNumDeviceCaps          1
  USB 2.0 Extension Device Capability:
    bLength                 7
    bDescriptorType        16
    bDevCapabilityType      2
    bmAttributes   0x00000002
      HIRD Link Power Management (LPM) Supported
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

An Edimax EW-7711UAn I've marked as "failed" delays the lsusb process but does not appear in the results (I guess it really has failed!).

Does this get us anywhere? It seems the HDR works with "0x3070" and "0x3071".

xyz321 · Aug 24, 2023

Here is a list of all the vendor id : product id combinations that the 3070 driver understands...

Code:

strings /lib/modules/rt3070sta.ko | sed -n -e '/alias/{s/^.*usb:v//;s/d\*.*$//;s/p/:/;p}' |sort

0411:00E8
0471:200F
04BB:0945
04E8:2018
050D:8053
050D:805C
050D:815C
050D:815C
0586:3416
0789:0162
0789:0163
0789:0164
07AA:002F
07AA:003C
07AA:003F
07B8:2770
07B8:2870
07B8:3070
07B8:3071
07B8:3072
07D1:3C09
07D1:3C0A
07D1:3C0D
07D1:3C0E
07D1:3C0F
07D1:3C11
083A:6618
083A:7511
083A:7512
083A:7522
083A:8522
083A:A618
083A:B522
0B05:1731
0B05:1732
0B05:1742
0CDE:0022
0CDE:0025
0DB0:3820
0DF6:0017
0DF6:002B
0DF6:002C
0DF6:002D
0DF6:0039
0DF6:003E
0DF6:0042
0E66:0001
0E66:0003
1044:800B
1044:800D
129B:1828
13D3:3247
13D3:3273
1482:3C09
148F:2770
148F:2870
148F:3070
148F:3071
148F:3072
14B2:3C06
14B2:3C07
14B2:3C09
14B2:3C12
14B2:3C23
14B2:3C25
14B2:3C27
14B2:3C28
157E:300E
15A9:0006
15C5:0008
1737:0070
1737:0071
1740:9701
1740:9702
1740:9703
1740:9705
1740:9706
177F:0302
18C5:0012
1A32:0304
1D4D:000C
1D4D:000E
1EDA:2310
2019:AB25
2019:ED06
203D:1480
5A57:0280
5A57:0282
5A57:0283
5A57:5257
7392:7711
7392:7717
7392:7718

xyz321 · Aug 24, 2023

Black Hole said:

This is the Edimax I'm using on Zen (not HDR-compatible):

Code:

Bus 003 Device 002: ID 7392:7711 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x7392 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd
  idProduct          0x7711 EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
  bcdDevice            1.01
  iManufacturer           1 Ralink
  iProduct                2 802.11 n WLAN
  iSerial                 3 1.0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength       0x0043
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              450mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           7
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface              5 1.0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x05  EP 5 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x06  EP 6 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
  bLength                10
  bDescriptorType         6
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  bNumConfigurations      1
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

It is interesting that your Edimax dongle does not work. I have an Edimax EW-7711UTn which does work (see spoiler below). They both have the same vendor id : product id but yours claims to use an Ralink RT2870 whereas mine uses the Ralink RT3070.

Bus 001 Device 020: ID 7392:7711 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT3070]
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x7392 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd
idProduct 0x7711 EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT3070]
bcdDevice 1.01
iManufacturer 1
iProduct 2
iSerial 3
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 0x0043
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 450mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 7
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol
iInterface 5
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x05 EP 5 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x06 EP 6 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

xyz321 said:
Here is a list of all the vendor id : product id combinations that the 3070 driver understands...

Not a short list then!

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

xyz321 said:
It is interesting that your Edimax dongle does not work.

Perhaps I'll give it another try.

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

xyz321 said:
Here is a list of all the vendor id : product id combinations that the 3070 driver understands...

What's the chance there are others, just not allocated when Humax froze the code?

bottletop · Aug 24, 2023

So using this..

xyz321 said:
Here is a list of all the vendor id : product id combinations that the 3070 driver understands...

Code:

strings /lib/modules/rt3070sta.ko | sed -n -e '/alias/{s/^.*usb:v//;s/d\*.*$//;s/p/:/;p}' |sort

0411:00E8
0471:200F
04BB:0945
04E8:2018
050D:8053
050D:805C
050D:815C
050D:815C
0586:3416
0789:0162
0789:0163
0789:0164
07AA:002F
07AA:003C
07AA:003F
07B8:2770
07B8:2870
07B8:3070
07B8:3071
07B8:3072
07D1:3C09
07D1:3C0A
07D1:3C0D
07D1:3C0E
07D1:3C0F
07D1:3C11
083A:6618
083A:7511
083A:7512
083A:7522
083A:8522
083A:A618
083A:B522
0B05:1731
0B05:1732
0B05:1742
0CDE:0022
0CDE:0025
0DB0:3820
0DF6:0017
0DF6:002B
0DF6:002C
0DF6:002D
0DF6:0039
0DF6:003E
0DF6:0042
0E66:0001
0E66:0003
1044:800B
1044:800D
129B:1828
13D3:3247
13D3:3273
1482:3C09
148F:2770
148F:2870
148F:3070
148F:3071
148F:3072
14B2:3C06
14B2:3C07
14B2:3C09
14B2:3C12
14B2:3C23
14B2:3C25
14B2:3C27
14B2:3C28
157E:300E
15A9:0006
15C5:0008
1737:0070
1737:0071
1740:9701
1740:9702
1740:9703
1740:9705
1740:9706
177F:0302
18C5:0012
1A32:0304
1D4D:000C
1D4D:000E
1EDA:2310
2019:AB25
2019:ED06
203D:1480
5A57:0280
5A57:0282
5A57:0283
5A57:5257
7392:7711
7392:7717
7392:7718

..and the newer https://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta, should give this list of potential usable options:

USB: 0411:00E8 BUFFALO INC. (formerly MelCo., Inc.) WLI-UC-G300N Wireless LAN Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 0471:200F Philips (or NXP) 802.11n Wireless Adapter
USB: 04BB:0945 I-O Data Device, Inc. WN-GDN/US3 Wireless LAN Adapter
USB: 04E8:2018 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd WIS09ABGN LinkStick Wireless LAN Adapter
USB: 050D:8053 Belkin Components F5D8053 N Wireless USB Adapter v1000/v4000 [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 050D:805C Belkin Components F5D8053 N Wireless Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 050D:815C Belkin Components F5D8053 N Wireless USB Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 050D:825B Belkin Components F5D8055 N+ Wireless Adapter v2000 [Ralink RT3072]
USB: 0586:3416 ZyXEL Communications Corp. NWD-210N 802.11b/g/n-draft wireless adapter
USB: 0789:0162 Logitec Corp. LAN-WN22/U2 Wireless LAN Adapter
USB: 0789:0163 Logitec Corp. LAN-WN12/U2 Wireless LAN Adapter
USB: 0789:0164 Logitec Corp. LAN-W150/U2M Wireless LAN Adapter
USB: 07AA:002F Corega K.K. CG-WLUSB2GNL
USB: 07AA:003C Corega K.K. CG-WLUSB2GNL
USB: 07AA:003F Corega K.K. CG-WLUSB300AGN
USB: 07B8:2770 AboCom Systems Inc 802.11n/b/g Mini Wireless LAN USB2.0 Adapter
USB: 07B8:2870 AboCom Systems Inc 802.11n/b/g Wireless LAN USB2.0 Adapter
USB: 07B8:3070 AboCom Systems Inc 802.11n/b/g Mini Wireless LAN USB2.0 Adapter
USB: 07B8:3071 AboCom Systems Inc 802.11n/b/g Mini Wireless LAN USB2.0 Adapter
USB: 07B8:3072 AboCom Systems Inc 802.11n/b/g Mini Wireless LAN USB2.0 Adapter
USB: 07D1:3C09 D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B1) [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 07D1:3C0A D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B2) [Ralink RT3072]
USB: 07D1:3C0D D-Link System DWA-125 Wireless N 150 Adapter(rev.A1) [Ralink RT3070]
USB: 07D1:3C0E D-Link System WUA-2340 RangeBooster G Adapter(rev.B) [Ralink RT2070]
USB: 07D1:3C0F D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.E1) [Ralink RT2070]
USB: 07D1:3C11 D-Link System DWA-160 Xtreme N Dual Band USB Adapter(rev.B) [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 083A:6618 Accton Technology Corp. 802.11n Wireless Adapter
USB: 083A:7511 Accton Technology Corp. Arcadyan 802.11N Wireless Adapter
USB: 083A:7512 Accton Technology Corp. Arcadyan 802.11N Wireless Adapter
USB: 083A:7522 Accton Technology Corp. Arcadyan 802.11N Wireless Adapter
USB: 083A:8522 Accton Technology Corp. Arcadyan 802.11N Wireless Adapter
USB: 083A:A618 Accton Technology Corp. SMCWUSBS-N EZ Connect N Draft 11n Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 083A:B522 Accton Technology Corp. SMCWUSBS-N2 EZ Connect N Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 0B05:1731 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. 802.11n Network Adapter
USB: 0B05:1732 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. 802.11n Network Adapter
USB: 0B05:1742 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. 802.11n Network Adapter
USB: 0CDE:0022 Z-Com 802.11b/g/n Wireless Network Adapter
USB: 0CDE:0025 Z-Com 802.11b/g/n USB Wireless Network Adapter
USB: 0DB0:3820 Micro Star International (Device name unknown)
USB: 0DF6:0017 Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-182 Wireless-N Network USB Card
USB: 0DF6:002B Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-188 Wireless Network 300N USB Adapter
USB: 0DF6:002C Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-301 Wireless Network 300N USB Adapter
USB: 0DF6:002D Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-302 Wireless Network 300N USB dongle
USB: 0DF6:0039 Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-315 Wireless-N USB Adapter
USB: 0DF6:003E Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-343 Wireless USB Adapter 150N X1
USB: 0DF6:0042 Sitecom Europe B.V. WL-345 Wireless USB adapter 300N X3
USB: 0E66:0001 Hawking Technologies HWUN1 Hi-Gain Wireless-300N Adapter w/ Upgradable Antenna [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 0E66:0003 Hawking Technologies HWDN1 Hi-Gain Wireless-300N Dish Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 1044:800B Chu Yuen Enterprise Co., Ltd GN-WB30N 802.11n WLAN Card
USB: 1044:800D Chu Yuen Enterprise Co., Ltd GN-WB32L 802.11n USB WLAN Card
USB: 129B:1828 CyberTAN Technology Gigaset USB Adapter 300
USB: 13D3:3247 IMC Networks 802.11 n/g/b Wireless LAN Adapter
USB: 13D3:3273 IMC Networks 802.11 n/g/b Wireless LAN USB Mini-Card
USB: 1482:3C09 Vaillant (Device name unknown)
USB: 148F:2770 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2770 Wireless Adapter
USB: 148F:2870 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870 Wireless Adapter
USB: 148F:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
USB: 148F:3071 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT3071 Wireless Adapter
USB: 148F:3072 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT3072 Wireless Adapter
USB: 14B2:3C06 Ralink Technology, Corp. Conceptronic C300RU v1 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 14B2:3C07 Ralink Technology, Corp. 802.11n adapter
USB: 14B2:3C09 Ralink Technology, Corp. 802.11n adapter
USB: 14B2:3C12 Ralink Technology, Corp. (Device name unknown)
USB: 14B2:3C23 Ralink Technology, Corp. Airlink101 AWLL6080 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 14B2:3C25 Ralink Technology, Corp. DrayTek Vigor N61 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 14B2:3C27 Ralink Technology, Corp. Airlink101 AWLL6070 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2770]
USB: 14B2:3C28 Ralink Technology, Corp. Conceptronic C300RU v2 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2770]
USB: 157E:300E TRENDnet (Device name unknown)
USB: 15A9:0006 Gemtek Wireless 11n USB Adapter
USB: 15C5:0008 Advance Multimedia Internet Technology Inc. (AMIT) WL532U 802.11g Adapter
USB: 1737:0070 Linksys WUSB100 v1 RangePlus Wireless Network Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 1737:0071 Linksys WUSB600N v1 Dual-Band Wireless-N Network Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 1740:9701 Senao EnGenius 802.11n Wireless USB Adapter
USB: 1740:9702 Senao EnGenius 802.11n Wireless USB Adapter
USB: 1740:9703 Senao EnGenius 802.11n Wireless USB Adapter
USB: 1740:9705 Senao EnGenius 802.11n Wireless USB Adapter
USB: 1740:9706 Senao EUB9706 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT3072]
USB: 177F:0302 Sweex (Device name unknown)
USB: 18C5:0012 AMIT Technology, Inc. CG-WLUSB10 Corega Wireless USB Adapter
USB: 1A32:0304 Quanta Microsystems, Inc. 802.11n Wireless LAN Card
USB: 1D4D:000C PEGATRON CORPORATION Ralink RT3070 802.11b/g/n Wireless Lan USB Device
USB: 1D4D:000E PEGATRON CORPORATION Ralink RT3070 802.11b/g/n Wireless Lan USB Device
USB: 1EDA:2310 AirTies Wireless Networks Air2310 150 Mbps Wireless Adapter
USB: 2019:AB25 PLANEX GW-USMini2N 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 2019:ED06 PLANEX GW-US300MiniW 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter
USB: 203D:1480 (Vendor name unknown) (Device name unknown)
USB: 5A57:0280 Zinwell 802.11a/b/g/n USB Wireless LAN Card
USB: 5A57:0282 Zinwell 802.11b/g/n USB Wireless LAN Card
USB: 5A57:0283 Zinwell 802.11b/g/n USB Wireless LAN Card
USB: 5A57:5257 Zinwell Metronic 495257 wifi 802.11ng
USB: 7392:7711 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 7392:7717 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7717UN 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
USB: 7392:7718 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7718UN 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT2870]

But don't rely on it completely - don't forget to look at https://wiki.hummy.tv/wiki/FAQs#Which_WiFi_Dongle.3F

bottletop · Aug 24, 2023

xyz321 said:
It is interesting that your Edimax dongle does not work. I have an Edimax EW-7711UTn which does work (see spoiler below). They both have the same vendor id : product id but yours claims to use an Ralink RT2870 whereas mine uses the Ralink RT3070.

Bus 001 Device 020: ID 7392:7711 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT3070]
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x7392 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd
idProduct 0x7711 EW-7711UTn nLite Wireless Adapter [Ralink RT3070]
bcdDevice 1.01
iManufacturer 1
iProduct 2
iSerial 3
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 0x0043
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 450mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 7
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol
iInterface 5
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x05 EP 5 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x06 EP 6 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0

Maybe the description sometimes differ from older and newer Linux distribution.
Then again, maybe not. https://forums.kali.org/showthread....e-Edimax-EW-7711UAN-(Ralink-RT2870-rt2800usb)
and https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=112890

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

Are we to conclude this statement (on the Wiki) is not necessarily correct?:

If ProdID is not "3070", the dongle will not work on HDR-FOX or HD-FOX.

And how do you explain that "050D:8053" appears in the supported list for the 3070 driver, and yet

Belkin - F5D8053 - N

is listed as not working?

There is more to this than currently meets the eye.

xyz321 · Aug 24, 2023

Perhaps we should say that if a device is listed in the driver then it may be supported but if not then it will not be supported (unless someone builds a new driver for it).

/df · Aug 24, 2023

Regarding the 7711, isn't it possible that Edimax substituted a new device when the RT3070s ran out without changing the USB ID? If their driver was updated to handle the substitute device, it would all look good in-house, but fall apart when exposed to unmodified 3rd-party drivers (eg, rt3070sta.ko).

Black Hole · Aug 24, 2023

/df said:
Regarding the 7711, isn't it possible that Edimax substituted a new device when the RT3070s ran out without changing the USB ID?

Black Hole said:
Perhaps I'll give it another try.

In fact it does work. I think that's a case of leaky DRAM on my part, because the 3070-incompatible dongle I wanted to use on Zen (my Linux box) works but not on a USB extension lead to get it into a suitable location. On the other hand, the Edimax EW-7711USn (which is, frankly, rather bulky for a HDR-FOX anyway) does work on a USB extension, which is (I expect) why I used it on Zen rather than reserving it for HDR-FOX duties.

xyz321 said:
Perhaps we should say that if a device is listed in the driver then it may be supported but if not then it will not be supported (unless someone builds a new driver for it).

That seems like a statement of the obvious, but if an ID matches the list in the driver, why wouldn't it work? I might be being naive here, but if the dongle gets matched to the wrong driver, it shouldn't work anywhere!

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