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Weird volume behaviour

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tonybonner

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The other night I stumbled into channel 57 (U&Eden) - not a channel I normally watch - while Kessler was on and it was VERY LOUD. So, I turned the volume down - or at least I tried to. The Humax volume bar went all the way
down to 0 but the sound remained VERY LOUD. I tried several other channels and the volume control behaved as expected then returned to ch57 and the problem remained. As I wasn't interested in the programme I moved on
and put it down to being 'one of those things'.
However , last night I thought I'd check again and there was still the same issue with Kessler on ch57. Haven't checked it at other times to see if ch57 is always like that but it seems pretty weird.

Just wondered if anybody else has experienced the same behaviour? Not overly-fussed about it - just curious.
 
Depends what channels you normally watch I suppose.
You have Digital Audio Output set to Multi-Channel in the Settings/Preferences/Audio menu and you have selected a service on PSB3.
This happens with all the HD channels, so I guess you don't watch any of them, and the three SD services thereon - namely 46 5SELECT, 57 U&Eden, 69 LEGEND XTRA.
 
From a long time ago (but nowhere near as long as we've known about this):

Black Hole said:
Here's what happens with HDR-FOX (may be the same with 5000T): if the audio preference is set to "multichannel" (ie surround sound), the audio feed output to HDMI is taken directly from the broadcast stream so as to preserve the surround sound information when the service is capable - ie a HiDef channel. The sound stream is accompanied by command codes to tell the TV (or whatever) what the volume control setting should be.

All StDef services, or all services (including HiDef) if the audio preference is set to "stereo", are converted to PCM for the HDMI output, and the PCM is scaled according to the volume setting.

This means that if the TV (or amp) is not capable of interpreting the volume commands, the HiDef services will be presented at full volume unless the audio preference is set to "stereo" (at which point you lose any surround sound). You have the choice of setting the volume using the TV (set the volume on the Humax to maximum), or settling for stereo.
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Two work-arounds:

1. Set HDR-FOX audio to stereo not multichannel; or...

2. Set HDR-FOX volume to max and only control volume using the TV's remote.
 
Thanks for the responses - prpr nailed it in every respect. Box is set to multi-channel and I don't tend to watch those channels as reception for that mux is a bit more marginal than the others.
I used to have it set to stereo but recently got a new Panasonic Freely tv and messed around with various settings when setting everything up. I think I left on multi-channel as it seemed a better match for the new tv.
Audio for the tv is routed out to a soundbar so I can use the volume on that remote if I should want to watch one of these channels but SWMBO only uses the Humax remote. ;-)
No worries and thanks again for the quick answers/advice.
 
tonybonner said:
Audio for the tv is routed out to a soundbar so I can use the volume on that remote if I should want to watch one of these channels but SWMBO only uses the Humax remote. ;-)
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It is a huge pain that the Humax remote cannot be programmed to control the TV or soundbar or AVR volume by infrared when in PVR mode to control the HDR Fox T2. Why on earth can't it do such an obviously useful thing? Switching to TV or Audio mode isn't the same, it takes more button presses and a huge graphic appears on screen disrupting the picture showing the mode change.
 
Owen Smith said:
It is a huge pain that the Humax remote cannot be programmed to control the TV or soundbar or AVR volume by infrared when in PVR mode to control the HDR Fox T2. Why on earth can't it do such an obviously useful thing? Switching to TV or Audio mode isn't the same, it takes more button presses and a huge graphic appears on screen disrupting the picture showing the mode change.
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While we can use the ir package to remap the remote control keys that happens within the humax,
We have no way of changing the the codes generated by the Humax remote control to codes that the TV would see.

But if you were to use a programmable remote control you should be able to set it up so that the volume buttons did control the TV.
 
Owen Smith said:
Where is that? I don't recall seeing it.
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WebIF >> Settings >> Setting for ir package >> Click here for options >> Block remote control mode change icons? = YES

Simples. Same place to disable volume controls (for those wanting to reserve volume adjustments to the TV).
 
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Black Hole said:
WebIF >> Settings >> Setting for ir package >> Click here for options >> Block remote control mode change icons? = YES

Simples. Same place to disable volume controls (for those wanting to reserve volume adjustments to the TV).
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Thanks. I've never installed the IR package, and all previous discussion I've seen about it was for changing what functions are on which buttons of the remote which I have never wanted to do. I've never seen anything about it having these other features.
 
prpr said:
Presumably it blocks the actions and doesn't just stops the icons from appearing?
That would then seem to be better as "Block remote control mode changes".
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The ir package option does not stop the action being completed.
The action is to change the device mode on the remote. The option stops the change mode image being displayed by the HDR-FOX/HD-FOX if the remote does send any of the ir codes for the device buttons.

In the words of the original and first post that announced the ir package:

af123 said:
This package also adds the option to disable the on-screen notifications of remote control mode changes which appear with later Humax firmwares and newer remote controls. The option is under Web-If >> Settings >> Remote Control Settings >> Options >> (scroll down to) 'Block remote control mode change icons' >> On >> Then reboot the Humax.
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