What's the point?

[RobH1]

Hell's teeth!! There seems to be a lot you can't do! Padding, extend recording time, set manual timers, skip adverts (fast forward?) etc.

Ouch! sums it up.

 

[Wallace]

Blimey! I have quickly 'scanned' Barry's FAQ's about YouView. Like BH af123 says, I hope that Humax don't stop seeing the HDR-T2! There seems (on the face of it) to be rather a lot of facilities missing from the YouView box that I think we have all come to take for granted on the HDR-T2. Can you believe that there is currently no manual tune option? Very short sighted IMHO.

I have to say that even without the CF, the HDR-T2 is a 'good' PVR, but the CF totally transforms it. It's hard to imagine using it without the CF.

Full marks to all those involved! I am even contemplating getting a second unit as a spare, how sad is that?

edited to correct a pre-caffeine moment. Sorry BH.

 

[Black Hole]

Wasn't me

 

[Brian]

It doesn't seem that long ago that people were telling us not to waste our money buying a Freeview HD recorder, and that we should wait for the Wonderful and soon to be released YouView recorder.
I wonder if these same people are going to rush out and buy one now that they are finally available.

 

[Ezra Pound]

Ouch... I hope Humax don't plan to stop selling the HDR Fox T2!

Agreed, It's much worse than I thought. If you think about the tiny 'niggles' people complain about on the HDR forums, they are not going to accept the massive reduction in functionallity of this product

 

[Ezra Pound]

I couldn't resist listing some YouView Q & A points (I hope Mr Amstrad gets the credit for this ! !) :-

Are my recording saved if I reset the Unit = No
Is there an Edit Channels option = No
Can we set up Favourites = No
Is there a Manual Tuning option = No
Padding of timers = No padding options
Manual schedule times = No
Edit schedule timers = No
Extend instant Record time = No
EPG Programme searches = No (on demand only)
USB file Export = No
WiFi Available = Not at present (Future enhancement)
Can I skip adverts = No
Can I select multiple recordings to delete = No
Is there a folders option = No
Can I record on demand content = No
Power up time = 2 Mins 13 Secs
Power Down time = 6 Mins 7 Secs
Quick power up = 23 Secs (Requires 16.2 Watt Standby)
OTA Software updates = No
Resolution change options = No
Aspect ratio change options = No
Screen Saver = No
Can I use alternate Remote codes = No
Is a CAM slot available = No
Do Vision / Connect channels work = No
Can you skip forward / backwards = No
Is slow motion available = No
FTP Server Available = No
DLNA Server / Client Available = No

 

[Brian]

Software updates = Will only be made available via Lan connection. No OTA

I would have thought that this was a Good point.

 

[af123]

I couldn't resist listing the Q & A bad points (I hope Mr Amstrad get the credit for this ! !) :-

+ Barry's posted:

Access Scheduled Timers list - 5 Key presses
Access Recordings - 4 Key Presses
No resolution change options.
No aspect ratio change options.
No screen saver.

(See http://myhumax.org/forum/topic/dtr-t1000-info/page/3)

 

[af123]

Power up time = 2 Mins 13 Secs

This one horrified me from the start. I presume it's related to the fact that the YouView software itself runs in some sort of virtual environment provided by the Humax software.

I suspect that most of these things aren't down to Humax - they had a tight spec to work with and have no control over the user interface itself but as a PVR company had to get involved. I really hope they continue to develop their own line of PVRs in parallel.

 

[Ezra Pound]

+ Barry's posted:

Thanks, I'll add some of these to #26 if that's O.K.

 

[Ezra Pound]

I would have thought that this was a Good point.

Fair point, I suppose I was just thinking about accessibility of the code, (from a hacking point of view), that's probably why they have done it

 

[af123]

Fair point, I suppose I was just thinking about accessibility of the code, (from a hacking point of view), that's probably why they have done it

The Youview Spec mandates this. It also specifies per-device encryption of the software image although from the way it's worded it could just be describing HTTPS.
They have to provide USB-installable software as a recovery mechanism (again a YouView requirement) and it would be interesting to see that. It may only be available to people who call up with a problem however so will take a while to leak out.

 

[af123]

Thanks, I'll add some of these to #26 if that's O.K.

Of course.

4 keypresses to get your list of recordings ?!

 

[HarveyB]

YouView box won't let you switch the remote to an alternate code set (so you couldn't use two in same room).

 

[Ezra Pound]

YouView box won't let you switch the remote to an alternate code set (so you couldn't use two in same room).

Another 'NO' for the #26 list

 

[Ezra Pound]

And another 4, No CAM slot ! ! ! etc.

 

[Owen Smith]

Also:

FTP Server: No
DLNA Client: No
DLNA Server: No

 

[Ezra Pound]

I feel the list in #26 has somewhat hijacked this thread so I have copied it to the 'Other Humax Terrestrial Products' section HERE