EEPhil
Number 28
That's why I added "Perhaps no" and recalled the Ruskie 'plane story.
prpr
Well-Known Member
Yes, me too.
Hmm, now that you mention that, I wonder how many of the ones using L plates actually have a provisional licence?
I was at a venue, probably about 20 years ago now, with a moderate power transmitter on 2.6-ish GHz and it stopped somebody's white van from starting. I found this out when he came up to me and asked if I had such a device. I hadn't come across the effect before. I'm afraid (
) he had to sit it out. It was on a fairly directional aerial, but I can't remember where his van was relative to my angle of point, or maybe the side-lobes were big enough regardless.
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EEPhil
Number 28
You did the world a service that day.
prpr
Well-Known Member
The trouble is, I was in a white van too!You did the world a service that day.
EEPhil
Number 28
Traitor!
antipodean
Active Member
EEPhil
Number 28
I'm fed up with dodging them on the pavements in Nottingham City Centre.
The ones I see in Nottingham are electric bicycles, usually ridden by persons with no helmet, a lower face covering and a large Deliveroo bag on their back.
Black Hole
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That is something else I would outlaw: concealing ones identity in public. It would apply to everyone (and therefore not be discrimination), and be an arrestable offence.
EEPhil
Number 28
Including the police? (I'd say yes unless there are compelling and justifiable reasons not to)
Black Hole
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Geez. Stuck behind a learner at 17mph (their speedo probably said 20, but I use GPS).
HugeMaximum
New Member
Had a 'cluster' of cyclists blocking the road up a hill - way less than 20mph! From local cycling club according to their 'suits'. They refuse to ride single file, but in a 'cluster' to properly block the road. They probably do it to discourage overtaking without sufficient clearance (as per highway code, it should be the same clearance as if overtaking a car).
It does test your patience!
It does test your patience!
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Black Hole
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I don't understand why recreations have been allowed to take over the highways. Nobody asked me for my vote on closing roads for a half-marathon or whatever! Another galling thing is taxis being allowed to use bus lanes. Why??
EEPhil
Number 28
Neither do I. I'm sure I was berated when I made a similar comment a while back.
Taxis "think" the rules of the road don't apply to them. Although I have seen signs that say taxis, or maybe taxis capable of carrying a wheelchair (in use), may use a bus lane.
One of the roads near me has a bus, cycle and ULEV lane - with a combined pavement and cycle track next to it.
Owen Smith
Well-Known Member
They're not doing anything wrong, indeed they are riding as advised by the Highway Code. It only used to advise single file if the carriageway is wide enough to overtake without cars crossing the white line, and today with the new recommendation for the same clearance as passing a car that's going to be almost never.
HugeMaximum
New Member
Highway code Rules for cyclists (59 to 82) - https: //www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82
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Rule 66 - bullet point #2:
be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders. Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so
They were just not doing the bits I put in bold, above. Of course, that's my interpretation - and the cyclists will say that they didn't feel safe to move into single file to allow drivers behind them to overtake.
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Rule 66 - bullet point #2:
be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders. Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so
They were just not doing the bits I put in bold, above. Of course, that's my interpretation - and the cyclists will say that they didn't feel safe to move into single file to allow drivers behind them to overtake.
Owen Smith
Well-Known Member
The cyclists would probably say, perhaps correctly, that had they gone single file cars would have passed them without crossing the white line and without leaving the space cars are now required to give when passing a cyclist.
From my own cycling I spend much of it cycling in the middle of the lane, because it's a) where there are less potholes as they tend to be where car wheels run, and b) the only way to stop idiots passing me with about a foot of clearance. If I can thump your door when you pass me you're way too close!