I'm on the lookout for two players, one just DVD the other with Blu-ray, preferably not very expensive. DVD: should I be looking for up-scaling, or is it irrelevant with modern TVs? I saw a Philips DVP3850G selling for £30 today, compatible with every CD/DVD format I can think of, but I hit the Interweb for specs and it doesn't appear to have an HDMI output! The Blu-ray will be my work-horse and needs to do everything in terms of optical playback - but I know nothing about Blu-ray. Any suggestions?