FVP-5000T iPlayer VERY slow

gigaday said:
The BBC iPlayer team were quite clear in their response to me and it was very polite and informative, they said "I've checked your Humax model, FVP-5000T, unfortunately it hasn't been certified for use with the iPlayer app. This means while the app may work on the device, we can't guarantee a good user experience. We only support devices which are certified so you may experience issues with BBC iPlayer on uncertified devices." Which I think is fair enough.
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The list of certified devices at https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/questions/supported-devices/humax doesn't include the FVP-5000T but it does include the FVP-4000T which has very similar hardware to the FVP-5000T and runs the same software. Humax advertising at https://uk.humaxdigital.com/product/fvp-5000t/ certainly includes iPlayer.
 
That list is odd. Similar to the FVP-4000T/FVP-5000T anomaly, it has the HD-FOX-T2 (until October) but not the HDR-FOX-T2. That date has passed now, so probably a moot point.
 
Black Hole said:
Transcoding higher defs to StDef before exporting stops anyone cracking DRM on HiDef
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There is no DRM on HiDef for the media streams. They are transmitted in the clear. It's only the EPG that is encrypted, which I would have thought is of limited use to any potential pirate, and long-since cracked anyway.
The encrypting of the video and audio on to disk on commercially produced boxes is therefore just stupid. You can record what you like unencrypted fairly trivially on a Raspberry Pi with a £7 DVB-T add-on.
 
bottletop said:
That date has passed now, so probably a moot point.
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"Until 30th October" – but which year?! It's hardly moot if BBC were supposed to be supporting iPlayer on HD-FOX but weren't.

prpr said:
There is no DRM on HiDef for the media streams. They are transmitted in the clear. It's only the EPG that is encrypted, which I would have thought is of limited use to any potential pirate, and long-since cracked anyway.
The encrypting of the video and audio on to disk on commercially produced boxes is therefore just stupid. You can record what you like unencrypted fairly trivially on a Raspberry Pi with a £7 DVB-T add-on.
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Sure, but I'm talking about the difference between a casual consumer and an enthusiast. Casual consumers are not likely to be cobbling together kit which can rip direct from broadcast, and off-the-shelf kit is beholden to the licensing. The aim, surely, is to stop casual consumers becoming pirates.
 
Black Hole said:
It's the same as recording the Top 40 to cassette – a fun activity of our youth, and illegal, but never going to challenge the commercial offering so tolerated.
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I'm fairly sure there was a recording licence that could be bought (1980s?) that was supposed to allow personal use. Can't be sure who issued it.BPI? Probably a scam, but my father fell for it and got a licence for at least one year. I can't find any record of such a licence on my brief web search.
Black Hole said:
Transcoding higher defs to StDef before exporting stops anyone cracking DRM on HiDef (cough, cough).
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For BBC stuff, get_iplayer or YTD can be your friend - and it often, but not always, gets rid of the end-credit squeeze and the gobby announcer.

Sometimes I'd like any reasonable copy of a programme. StdDef will do. What happens if I ever get a large screen TV - I don't know.
 
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