Has 1.02.27 Taken Over???

Black Hole · Apr 18, 2012

I've always said the same. Digital communications = potential for encryption and rights management (ie no free TV any more, never mind that we have already paid for it). AR = potential to prevent recording of specific content. Enforced retunes = you will take this channel whether you like it or not and even if you deleted it only yesterday. Enforced firmware updates = we will control you in ways we hadn't thought of when the equipment was sold to you.

af123 · Apr 18, 2012

Scuttlebroom said:
...once again the favourite channel list didn't restore

Do you happen to have a copy of any error message that you get when restoring the favourites list? Can you give me an idea of what's in your favourites list so I can try and replicate this?

xyz321 · Apr 18, 2012

...and I thought the message only appears at boot up, wrong it appears every time the channel is changed. :eek:

af123 · Apr 18, 2012

xyz321 said:
...and I thought the message only appears at boot up, wrong it appears every time the channel is changed.

You have this coming up now? Can you try updating NETWORK_CHANGE_VER to a very high number in TBL_USERCONFIG and see if that suppresses it?

Scuttlebroom · Apr 18, 2012

af123 said:
Do you happen to have a copy of any error message that you get when restoring the favourites list? Can you give me an idea of what's in your favourites list so I can try and replicate this?

Hi AF, no error messages, the script ran looked like all was OK (copy shown below, sorry not very aufait with how to get the nice screen grabs you guys manage!). (Interestingly when I went to re-set the favourites, the name I set "Channels" was still there, just no channels listed!)

Restoring scheduled events from backup-2012-Apr-18-21:49... Restoring BBC News at Six No change in channel service. Restoring Two Greedy Italians: Still Hungry No change in channel service. Restoring BBC News at Six No change in channel service. Restoring Have I Got News for You No change in channel service. Restoring The Graham Norton Show No change in channel service. Restoring Parkinson: The Interviews No change in channel service. Restoring Mark Lawson Talks to Felicity... No change in channel service. Restoring Kathleen Ferrier: An Ordinary Diva No change in channel service. Restoring BBC News at Six No change in channel service. Restoring Bang Goes the Theory No change in channel service. Restoring The Little Paris Kitchen:... No change in channel service. Restoring Silent Witness No change in channel service. Restoring The 70s No change in channel service. Restoring The Bridge No change in channel service. Restoring Mystery Woman: In The Shadows No change in channel service. Restoring BBC News at Six No change in channel service. Restoring Hairy Bikers' Bakeation No change in channel service. Restoring The Syndicate No change in channel service. Restoring Our Food No change in channel service. Restoring --- Sleep --- Restoring --- Auto Update --- Restoring --- Wake-up --- No change in channel service. Restoring favourite channels... Group 1 BBC ONE BBC TWO ITV1 Channel 4 Channel 5 ITV2 BBC THREE BBC FOUR ITV3 Channel 4+1 More 4 Film4 ITV4 ITV2 +1 E4 E4+1 5* 5 USA ITV1 +1 Channel 5+1 BBC One HD ITV1 HD Channel 4 HD BBC HD BBC NEWS Sky News

As for what was in the list, only main BBC, ITV and Ch5 channels, and I re-named the list "Channels" in case the apostrophe was the issue!

the main issue I have with the fact that the box is asking to re-tune each time, (I only see this at re-boot, not channel change - YET!) is that with my Panasonic box, it does the same thing as it thinks new channels are available, even though they are not, but it highlights "Later" (no "No" as in that boxes case), which means if someone presses "OK" nothing happens. That would be an improvement if we can't stop this happening.

af123 · Apr 18, 2012

Thanks - I'll have another look at the favourite restore.

If your box is still popping up the retune message, you could be the perfect guinea pig to see if we can stop it.

af123 · Apr 18, 2012

Scuttlebroom said:
(Interestingly when I went to re-set the favourites, the name I set "Channels" was still there, just no channels listed!)

Did you reboot straight away after the restore? That's probably needed for the Humax software to spot the restored favourites..

Scuttlebroom · Apr 18, 2012

af123 said:
Thanks - I'll have another look at the favourite restore.

Hope it is of help! (How do you guys get the nice code text in blue that I see so often?!)

If your box is still popping up the retune message, you could be the perfect guinea pig to see if we can stop it.

Thanks!!

Well it isn't a major issue the re-tune message, just that a friend pressed "Now" earlier today whilst I was out doing Freeview re-tunes for my neighbors (sheltered block of flats and housing association said "Do it yourselves!" when elderly residents asked what to do!! And I hadn't bothered to take a back-up of the schedule after this morning, as I assumed (I know BH it should be "Presume"!) I wouldn't need a restore again today {note to self, never assume as it makes an a*re out on U and Me!} And I was very casually told as they left, that "By the way, something funny happened with your Freeview box when I turned the TV on.", so they simply turned the TV off! :oops:

Scuttlebroom · Apr 18, 2012

af123 said:
Did you reboot straight away after the restore? That's probably needed for the Humax software to spot the restored favourites..

Yes I did, as I am told to do on WebIf, also the wording that says you need to add a schedule is still showing

xyz321 · Apr 18, 2012

af123 said:
You have this coming up now? Can you try updating NETWORK_CHANGE_VER to a very high number in TBL_USERCONFIG and see if that suppresses it?

I was going to try this but I accidentally pressed the wrong button when the nag message reappeared which started a scan. BTW hitting stop then the cancel button continues the scan. I then stopped the scan and saved an empty channel list. Then I let it complete another scan, saved the results and rebooted - no nag message. After cleaning out the channel list, reboot still no nag mesage. Restored the schedule (I don't use favourites) and rebooted, the nag message is back. I saved a copy of the setup database when it was nagging earlier, when it was working again and when it was broken again. There was no difference in the latter two.

af123 · Apr 18, 2012

Thanks - useful data. So it's probably related to the DSO event in the schedule list?

Scuttlebroom · Apr 18, 2012

af123 said:
Thanks - useful data. So it's probably related to the DSO event in the schedule list?

Hi AF, just to advise (in case it has any bearing on the issue) I don't have a DSO event listed anymore (it was there until this morning) in my schedule list that I used to see on WebIf and RS, so not sure if that is relevant?

xyz321 · Apr 18, 2012

af123 said:
Thanks - useful data. So it's probably related to the DSO event in the schedule list?

Perhaps, but I don't see a DSO event in the schedule list.

I tried deleting all the events from the schedule list but after another reboot it is still nagging.

xyz321 · Apr 18, 2012

xyz321 said:
I tried deleting all the events from the schedule list but after another reboot it is still nagging.

The ASO_NOTIFY_FLAG entry had been added to the setup database, after deleting it the nag message disappears. So it seems the DSO notify event must be in the backup and is causing the ASO_NOTIFY_FLAG to be set.

What is the format used for the backup files? I should like to try stripping out the DSO event.

Later... I figured out the format and stripped it out. It seems to be fine now.

af123 · Apr 19, 2012

Thanks xyz321.
I've just uploaded webif 0.9.6-1 which will not restore the DSO event to the schedule which should stop people getting caught in a loop.

xyz321 · Apr 19, 2012

Here's a diff between the state of setup.db immediately after DSO and how it ended up after many reboots and rescans in case it helps anyone else.

Code:

diff -u dso1.txt dso6.txt
--- dso1.txt
+++ dso6.txt
@@ -28,10 +28,9 @@
INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(28,'OTA_USERCANCELLED_TYPE',0,'',NULL);
INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(29,'OTA_USERCANCELLED_VERSION',0,'',NULL);
INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(30,'KEYBOARD_MODE',0,'',NULL);
-INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(40,'ASO_LAST_SCAN_TIME',1334719067,'',NULL);
+INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(40,'ASO_LAST_SCAN_TIME',1334782949,'',NULL);
INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(41,'NETWORK_CHANGE_INFO_MSG',0,'',X'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');
-INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(44,'T_REGION_NAMEINFO_CNT',2,'',NULL);
-INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(45,'T_REGION_NAMEINFO_PTR',0,'',X'474252000100000000000001106937456E676C616E6400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004742520002000000000012011069374C6F6E646F6E000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000');
-INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(46,'NETWORK_CHANGE_INFO',0,'',X'01030100F0F58D4F605400000800C10B000000000000000000000000');
-INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(47,'ASO_NOTIFY_FLAG',1,'',NULL);
+INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(48,'T_REGION_NAMEINFO_CNT',2,'',NULL);
+INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(49,'T_REGION_NAMEINFO_PTR',0,'',X'474252000100000000000001106937456E676C616E6400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004742520002000000000012011069374C6F6E646F6E000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000');
+INSERT INTO "TBL_USERCONFIG" VALUES(50,'NETWORK_CHANGE_INFO',0,'',NULL);
COMMIT;

Black Hole · Apr 19, 2012

Scuttlebroom said:
(How do you guys get the nice code text in blue that I see so often?!)

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Black Hole · Apr 19, 2012

af123 said:
I've just uploaded webif 0.9.6-1 which will not restore the DSO event to the schedule which should stop people getting caught in a loop.

I have a slight fly to put in the ointment. I don't know how to explain where my retune came from, because the DSO event for Mendip was 28th March, and there was no similar event on Wenvoe (even if I was tuned to it). And then, supposing there was an event in the schedule, I restored the schedule straight after but the nags did not reappear.

Any guesses?

Scuttlebroom · Apr 19, 2012

af123 said:
Thanks xyz321.
I've just uploaded webif 0.9.6-1 which will not restore the DSO event to the schedule which should stop people getting caught in a loop.

Hi AF, thanks for this

, my box auto upgraded to the latest WebIf and when I got up this morning, I turned the TV on, and the box had Auto woken up as usual, and no message or re-tune :cool:

, so I will keep an eye on it, and let you know if anything goes amiss!

Many thanks for all your hard work on this issue, hopefully after the DSO events finish in October this wont be an issue again!

Scuttlebroom · Apr 19, 2012

Black Hole said:
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Thanks BH, I will add that to my knowledge database (although my database is getting a bit rusty, shame I can't upgrade it!)

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