HDHomeRun DVR Software

peterh337 said:
In what way is it not Freeview? Isn't a Freeview recorder just a tuner (or 2 or 3) and some code decoding it and streaming it to a HD? And decoding the EPG (which is simple) and presenting that on a GUI.
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Freeview devices have to be certified before they can carry the Freeview marking. The HDHomeRun devices have not been certified, and therefore cannot be called Freeview devices.

They record the same Free to Air channels, but they record the streams as received, unencrypted.
 
Is it a crime (in the UK) to say it records Freeview, when it does not have a "Freeview" label? IANAL but it would seem to be a stretch. "Freeview" is a trademark but it is not illegal to refer to a trademark by name.

Maybe Freeview (or one of the member organisations) has a legal team which threatens anybody using the name?
 
peterh337 said:
Is it a crime (in the UK) to say it records Freeview, when it does not have a "Freeview" label? IANAL but it would seem to be a stretch. "Freeview" is a trademark but it is not illegal to refer to a trademark by name.
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I think it would be a breach of Trading Standards legislation, claiming it supports Freeview when it does not correctly implement it. That used to be a quite serious offence but these days no-one seems to care. But the risk may be enough reason for the HDHomeRun to not claim support for Freeview.
 
peterh337 said:
In what way is it not Freeview? Isn't a Freeview recorder just a tuner (or 2 or 3) and some code decoding it and streaming it to a HD? And decoding the EPG (which is simple) and presenting that on a GUI.
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It isn't directly using the Freeview EPG.
 
I said somewhere else that a manufacturer required a licence from Freeview to use the Freeview EPG, and without that the box isn't Freeview. In one ear and out the other it seems. Also, anything advertising a 14-day EPG cannot be getting it from Freeview (and may well be a tactic to avoid looking like you're ripping Freeview off).

Yes of course these non-Freeview boxes are getting their EPG from alternative sources, and that means over Internet. The alternative is to use a pirated Freeview EPG decoder, which might be OK for DIY but certainly wouldn't for any commercial concern.

As for legality, it's not a question of "against the law" (as in Crown Law), it would be up to the rights holders to sue for breach of copyright or other protected rights. The specifications, for example, are not available without paying a huge fee and signing an agreement what you are (and are not) allowed to do with them.
 
peterh337 said:
Where does one get the EPG from otherwise?
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DVRonTime is an alternative DVR implementation for the HDhomerun
  • It uses the broadcast EPG
  • It implement AR recording using the broadcast signals, AFAIK the Homerun DVR uses padding
  • It is free and non-commercial so dosn't attract attention of Freeview's lawyers
 
I use ChannelsDVR installed on my NAS with my HomeRun Quad. Admittedly I pay £80 per year but I get a 14 day EPG and four HD tuners.

It works very well. I have the app on all my devices including my AppleTV 4Ks. I stream TV and recordings to televisions throughout the house via WiFi.

Love it.
 
Wallace said:
I use ChannelsDVR installed on my NAS with my HomeRun Quad. Admittedly I pay £80 per year but I get a 14 day EPG and four HD tuners.

It works very well. I have the app on all my devices including my AppleTV 4Ks. I stream TV and recordings to televisions throughout the house via WiFi.

Love it.
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That’s quite expensive, have you tried the HDHomeRum DVR software, my last annual renewal in October was £26.10 ($35), which I think is very reasonable.

I am using two of the HDHomeRun Flex Quatro HDFX-4DT devices and 4 TB of storage, so I have eight HD tuners, and also a 14 day EPG, and I have the app on my PCs, Macs, FireTV Sticks, GoogleTV devices, iPads, iPhones and I can watch and set up recordings on any of these devices.

It can also be installed on a NAS, but I don’t currently use one.
 
Yeah i can’t argue against the cost, but I have tried the HDHomeRun software, even subscribing to it once, but ‘we didn’t get along’ so to speak. ChannelsDVR does everything I want including great apps for all my Apple devices. I can also stream away from home, not that I have need to do that these days. The software is installed on my NAS, but I have new recordings being saved to a separate HDD. My NAS has my other media on it and ChannelsDVR can view that.

I have the same HDHomeRun Quatro HDFX-4DT as you, but only one!
 
The whole software has been totally revamped with a much more modern graphical interface since I first started using it, and now it’s so much better.

It doesn’t do as much as the ChannelsDVR software, but the price definitely reflects this, and I have been fully satisfied with it for over three years.

I certainly don’t think I could ever go back to using the HDR-Fox T2, or Aura devices again.
 
I've also transitioned over to Channels DVR (from DVROnTime), which I now run on my Synology NAS with my 2 HD Homerun Quattro's. It is more expensive but the software is so much more capable IMO. Since making the transition I've also stopped using my HDR-Fox T2's completely and definitely won't be going back either...
 
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