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ice & eggs

Discussion in 'The Hummy Arms' started by framedtoo, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. framedtoo

    framedtoo Member

    why does ice melt when heated while eggs become hard?
     
  2. parish

    parish Member

    Probably related to the way certain parts of male and female anatomies react in opposite ways to the cold :p
     
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  3. MrPloppy

    MrPloppy Member

    That was a proper "lol"... :D
     
  4. Mike0001

    Mike0001 Well-Known Member

    Thermodynamics vs Chemistry.

    Next question!
     
  5. Black Hole

    Black Hole Usain the Whippet

    Are you serious, or is this the lead in to some kind of skit?

    Presuming this is a serious enquiry from somebody (for example) trying to help out with homework, it is as summarised in post 4.

    Applying heat to an egg induces chemical reactions between its constituents (mainly proteins) which result in the reaction products being solid rather than liquid. When performed in a kitchen this is known as "cooking", when studied in a laboratory it's "chemistry".

    Applying heat to ice (ie solid water) increases the energy, but the constituents of ice are just water molecules which are not going to react with anything until the temperature becomes extreme. The energy is in the form of vibration of the molecules, and at sufficient energy (ie temperature) the bonds which hold the water molecules together as a solid are broken, and the water becomes liquid and then gas as the temperature is increased further. In a kitchen this is "defrosting", and in a laboratory it is a phase change from the solid form to the liquid form of water in accordance with thermodynamics.
     
  6. Mike0001

    Mike0001 Well-Known Member

    My answer was more succinct. :p
     
  7. Black Hole

    Black Hole Usain the Whippet

    Yep - but I took pity on somebody who might have been really wanting to know.
     
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  8. Mike0001

    Mike0001 Well-Known Member

    Why water expands when it freezes is far more interesting.

    And why, in a fuzzy sort of way, a Helium atom is half the size of a Hydrogen atom, when "common sense" tells us it should be twice the size.
     
  9. Trev

    Trev The Dumb One

    But luckily, it does when cooled below about 4deg C.
    @BH. You forgot to mention the latent heat of fusion and vaporisation. Does water become a gas, or is it a vapour?
     
  10. MikeSh

    MikeSh Well-Known Member

    I want to know why Mike0001 is digging up threads from 3 1/2 years ago ...... ?
     
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  11. Black Hole

    Black Hole Usain the Whippet

    :facepalm:

    I didn't notice that.
     
  12. Mike0001

    Mike0001 Well-Known Member


    Thread ageist!:disagree:
     
  13. Black Hole

    Black Hole Usain the Whippet

    I'm curious why the question never got more of an answer in the first place, and why the OP posted it - but he hasn't been on the forum for over a year either.
     
  14. MikeSh

    MikeSh Well-Known Member

    Sort of ... but you still didn't answer the question [​IMG]

    Probably gave up waiting for an answer ...
     
  15. gomezz

    gomezz Well-Known Member

    If you put eggs in a pan of water what does it need to move heat from the water to the eggs so you can do both at the same time?
     
  16. Black Hole

    Black Hole Usain the Whippet

    What, you mean turn the water into ice at the same time as cook the eggs? You could do it with a heat pump, but it would have to be a different body of water and not the water the eggs were cooking in.
     
  17. Mike0001

    Mike0001 Well-Known Member


    Just to amuse you, Mike. My sole reason.[​IMG]
     
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