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Manhattan T4-R

confabulator said:
Just need to get my package settings back to what they used to be, especially Tunefix. Wish I had a photo of what I did with those!
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They're all mostly* sitting on the HDD from the original HDR. Swapping the old HDD into the new HDR (as per post 16) would just reinstate them (or you can copy the /mod folder across, but you must use Linux to do that)!

* see below.
 
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trog said:
I bought a T2 soon after they came out and it was only ever powered off for a few minutes rarely and viewed and recording daily for many years, it still has the original HDD and works still as well as the day I bought it without ever having any hardware issues. The box is pristine.
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Same here.
 
I was certainly hoping it would be. And if you're looking at what is out there right now it may still be. But if you've had a T2 you're not going to feel that way. It has loads of potential to get there though.

My used replacement T2 is such a better option once I had the confidence to buy one.
 
I’m in a similar position here. Our hdr-foxt2 had been randomly locking-up more frequently and missed all the programmed recordings while we were away over Christmas. I had seen good reports of the Manhattan and not-so-good reports of current Humax so took the plunge. So far so good. Latest firmware sounds like a significant improvement over the original. One or two features not great but several worthwhile improvements (for us) over the Humax.
However… (there’s always a however) came home tonight to find it locked up requiring a power cycle. Just hoping it’s a one-off….
 
Wow! Registered in 2013 and this is your first post? Some kind of record...

Defence against lock-ups is to use a timer to give it a nightly power cycle.
 
Black Hole said:
Wow! Registered in 2013 and this is your first post? Some kind of record...

Defence against lock-ups is to use a timer to give it a nightly power cycle.
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An even bigger WOW for this numpty on the other site who waited 12 years then posted this ( I replaced the link with text) ..................
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Hi all - I bought a T4-R a week ago to replace a dying Humax FVP-5000T.

Despite being a tuner down I’m quite impressed with it. The interface is clear and performance is snappy, though I’ve only got a few recordings on the drive at the moment. I also like that the system menus include a degree of technical info not available on the Humax.

However, I did notice that the picture on HD channels is being unnecessary sharpened. It looks like they are applying some edge enhancement and the overall image has a very fine - almost film-like - grain.

I contacted Manhattan about this, and the possibility of adding a toggle option in the menus so that users could choose to pass the broadcast signal directly through to the TV if they prefer.

I received a very polite response from Alex at Manhattan. He confirmed that following criticism of a soft picture on SD channels at launch they have added sharpening to these, but that some extra sharpening was being applied to HD also (possibly UHD).

He noted that adding a toggle option to pass what is being broadcast directly through to the TV, for processing to only happen once at that level, wouldn’t require much work. If enough people like the idea, they would definitely consider it.

So, if you use a T4-R and like the sound of that, could I urge you to contact them and say so? I just went through the feature request option on the website. Even if you’re happy with the picture now it would give the option to see how a pure signal looks.

Chris.
 
I think pass-through is a much better option than any processing. A user's TV probably has all the image sharpening/softening options they need, and is probably better at doing it.
 
prpr said:
What is passing through what? The data broadcast is MPEG coded. The data on the HDMI link is not.
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Essentially the T4-R doing the minimum it needs to pass what it receives to the TV. No unnecessary additional picture processing. Alex at Manhattan seemed to understand the inference.
 
Chris Cain said:
Essentially the T4-R doing the minimum it needs to pass what it receives to the TV. No unnecessary additional picture processing. Alex at Manhattan seemed to understand the inference.
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Are you talking about upscaling? I have a Humax Aura, a Denon AV amp and a Samsung TV all of which can upscale and I can choose which one if any I want to do the upscaling. Surely the T4-R also gives you that option.
 
Black Hole said:
So you just decode the MPEG and output it to HDMI as-is, no change to resolution or applying any filtering beyond what was necessary to decode.
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That’s certainly one option I would say. Perhaps passthrough isn’t the correct term, I’m not especially technical. Essentially I mean a toggle that at the minimum takes away the current additional sharpening applied to HD, as confirmed by Manhattan.
 
trog said:
Are you talking about upscaling? I have a Humax Aura, a Denon AV amp and a Samsung TV all of which can upscale and I can choose which one if any I want to do the upscaling. Surely the T4-R also gives you that option.
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You can set the output res, as you’d expect, but can’t adjust any sharpening it adds to the image by default. Hence the idea of an option to turn that off.
 
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