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Problem recording more than one channel

Discussion in 'FOXSAT-HDR Freesat Recorder' started by Ian Hollamby, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. Ian Hollamby

    Ian Hollamby New Member

    Since powering off my Humax Foxsat-HDR I have a problem recording more than one channel. Before doing this I was able to record 2 channels.

    There is a single cable from the sat. dish and have looped it from the 1st tuner to the 2nd with another cable. Both Tuners show in the diagnostics as having a good signal strength (>90%).
    I have gone into the secret Antenna menu (R G Y B G Y B) and changed the setting to 2 (same cable) and then tried resetting the unit. However the unit when going through the initial configuration does not detect two inputs and therefore will not allow two programs to be recorded.

    I have done this process several times, changed the loop cable, inspected the inner core, upgraded firmware and loader but all to no avail.

    If someone has and idea as to what I can try I would be grateful. It is frustrating to know the unit can do it but does not allow it.

    Software Version: HPRSFCI 1.00.21
    Loader Version: U 7.54
    System ID: 3768.0000
    Postcode: RG2 9FG
    Tuner 1: 10817, V,22000, 5/6
    Tuner 2: 10817, V,22000, 5/6
     
  2. grahamlthompson

    grahamlthompson Well-Known Member

    Wrong setting 2 cables(same) means two seperate cables to same dish. Make sure you have the one cable on Tuner 1 in and the loop from tuner 1 out to tuner 2 in. Any other connection won't work. A reset should set up single cable working if the connections are correct.
     
  3. Ian Hollamby

    Ian Hollamby New Member

    OK, thanks for the information

    1) So should this setting be set to "one cable" even though there are 2 connections?
    2) Will this still allow 2 channels to be recorded. As this had been working with the same hardware and cables before I powered the unit off?
     
  4. grahamlthompson

    grahamlthompson Well-Known Member

    Yes and Yes. 2nd channel to be recorded must be in same frequency band (high or low - very few high band channels) and polarisation (horizontal/vertical) as the transponder tuner 1 is using.

    You can also watch any other channel sharing a transponder with either recording (any other in same band and polarisation if both recordings are from same transponder). If your connections are correct the reset should have set this up correctly anyway.
     
  5. Ian Hollamby

    Ian Hollamby New Member

    OK, perhaps I misled you with my original problem description.

    Before I powered the unit off I was able to record BBC1 (101) and record BBC2 (102) or ITV (103) at the same time with the same hardware and cable and loop through. However now I am not!

    With the setup you suggest above, if I record BBC1 (101) I can only choose channels like 106 (BBC Three) 108 (BBC One HD) 109 (BBC HD)... (probably same frequency band and polarisation as you suggest).

    I just want to get back to the configuration that I had before. Perhaps after the software upgrade it has stopped this working. I am sure the last time I got this working I had to use the secret menu as described above.

    Any clues?
     
  6. grahamlthompson

    grahamlthompson Well-Known Member

    Probably the channels have changed transponders. Tune to 101 and press opt+ note the transponder details, repeat for 102 and 103 and post the details. It's impossible to avoid the limits of two tuners sharing a single lnb. Also tune to ITV1-HD and post which transponder you are using. Once I have the info I can suggest some tests. You should have a lot more 2nd channels than you have recording BBC1, without knowing which region I can't tell you which these are.

    Did you check the connections as I suggested. The one coax to the dish should be on the connection nearest the edge of the box, the loop connects the other two. There's no need to access the secret menu at all.
     
  7. Ian Hollamby

    Ian Hollamby New Member

    It would be a co-incidence if it changed channels around the same time as I powered the unit off and on.

    The connections are as you specified.
    I know you said there are limitations but it was working before so I am at a loss to know what has changed other than the settings in the unit.
    I guess the proper solution would be to get a dual LNB fitted with two cables would prefer not to if at all possible.

    Channel information shown below :

    No. Channel Frequency Polarisation Band Column1 Comments
    101 BBC1 South 10817 V 22000 5/6
    102 BBC2 England 10773 H 22000 5/6
    103 ITV1 Mer South 10891 H 22000 5/6
    104 Channel 4 10714 H 22000 5/6
    105 Channel 5 10964 H 22000 5/6
    106 BBC THREE 10817 V 22000 5/6
    107 BBC FOUR 10773 H 22000 5/6
    108 BBC One HD 10847 V 23000 2/3
    109 BBC HD 10847 V 23000 2/3
    110 BBC Alba 10802 V 22000 5/6
    111 no channel
    112 ITV1+1 10906 V 22000 5/6
    113 ITV2 10758 V 22000 5/6
    114 ITV2+1 10891 H 22000 5/6
    115 ITV3 10906 V 22000 5/6
    116 ITV3+1 10906 V 22000 5/6
    117 ITV4 10758 V 22000 5/6
    118 ITV4+1 10832 H 22000 5/6
    119 ITV1 HD 10832 H 22000 5/6
    120 S4C 12051 27500 2/3 no signal
    121 Channel 4+1 10729 V 22000 5/6
    122 E4 10729 V 22000 5/6
    123 E4+1 10729 V 22000 5/6
    124 More4 10729 V 22000 5/6
    125 More4+1 10714 H 22000 5/6
    126 Channel 4 HD 11126 V 22000 5/6
    127 4seven 11126 V 22000 5/6
    128 Channel5+1 10964 H 22000 5/6
    129 5 USA 10964 H 22000 5/6
    130 5 USA+1 10964 H 22000 5/6
    131 5* 10964 H 22000 5/6
    132 5*+1 10964 H 22000 5/6
    133 no channel
    134 CBS Drama 11343 V 27500 2/3
    135 CBS Reality 11344 H 27500 2/3
    136 CBS Reality+1 11261 H 27500 2/3
    137 CBS Action 11222 H 27500 2/3
    138 Horror 11261 H 27500 2/3
    139 Horror+1 11222 H 27500 2/3
    140 BET 11344 H 27500 2/3
    141 BET+1 11222 H 27500 2/3
    142 True Ent 11307 V 27500 2/3
    143 Men and Movies 12560 V 27500 2/3

    200 BBC News 10817 V 22000 5/6
    201 BBC Parliament 10788 V 22000 5/6
    202 no signal
    203 Al Jazeera 11680 V 27500 2/3
    204 euronews 11343 V 27500 2/3
    205 France 24 11426 V 27500 2/3
    206 RT 11623 H 27500 2/3
    207 CNN 12051 V 27500 2/3 no signal
    208 Bloomberg TV 11426 V 27500 2/3
    209 NHK World HD 11223 V 27500 2/3
     
  8. prpr

    prpr Well-Known Member

    The ONLY pair of these you can record with one LNB feed is 102 and 103.
    Just accept it or get another cable put in.
     
  9. grahamlthompson

    grahamlthompson Well-Known Member

    Try recording any of the following with 102 and then 103, you didn't need to list all the channels. Only 101 102 103 and 119 are affected by the postcode you used, the rest are the same for everybody.
    Post if this works and which channel pairs you want to record.

    959 BBC 1 S East
    955 BBC 1 N West
    956 BBC 1 NE & C
    960 BBC 1 Scotland
    966 BBC1 Yorks

    959 BBC 1 S East
    955 BBC 1 N West
    956 BBC 1 NE & C
    960 BBC 1 Scotland
    966 BBC1 Yorks