red ring log explanation help

mihaid

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could someone try and have a go at explaining why a second recording at 20.00 did not start?
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1853    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:59:49 2015: Recording end 42.
1852    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:59:49 2015: REC icon off.
1851    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:47:04 2015: Play icon on.
1850    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:46:50 2015: Play icon off.
1849    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:46:46 2015: Play icon on.
1848    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:00:10 2015:    Changing to red.
1847    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:00:10 2015: Recording end 31.
1846    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:00:00 2015:    Changing to purple.
1845    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:00:00 2015:    Recording 2
1844    [RR] Sun Dec 27 20:00:00 2015: Recording start 42:'/mnt/hd2/My Video/Dragons' Den/Dragons' Den_20151227_2000.nts'
1843    [RR] Sun Dec 27 19:52:56 2015: Ring going red.
1842    [RR] Sun Dec 27 19:52:56 2015: REC icon on.
1841    [RR] Sun Dec 27 19:52:56 2015: Ring going blue, full boot.
1840    [RR] Sun Dec 27 19:52:48 2015:   Still recording.
1839    [RR] Sun Dec 27 19:52:48 2015: Ring trying to go amber.
1838    [RR] Sun Dec 27 19:52:48 2015: Standby ring dim detected.
1837    [RR] Sun Dec 27 19:52:48 2015: Standby ring dim detected.
1836    [RR] Sun Dec 27 18:00:11 2015: REC icon on.
1835    [RR] Sun Dec 27 18:00:11 2015:    Recording 1
1834    [RR] Sun Dec 27 18:00:11 2015: Ring going red.
1833    [RR] Sun Dec 27 18:00:11 2015: Recording start 31:'/mnt/hd2/My Video/Fawlty Towers_ Re-Opened_20151227_1800.nts'
 

Black Hole

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More info required. You had two recordings running between 20:00:00 and 20:00:10, another recording could only have started subsequent to that. Do you have a failed recording due to higher priority?
 

Trev

The Dumb One
What happens if you have the box tuned to one Mpx and the two recordings are both on two different Mpx (with the box tuned to say BBC1 SD and trying to record BBC1 HD and ITV at the same time) if:
a. you are watching the BBC1 SD
b. you are not watching the O/P of the box at all?
 

Ezra Pound

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The same happens for both a) and b), when it is time to record the second programme, a message will be displayed saying the channel will be switched Y / N, if you answer No, the second recording will be cancelled, if you say Yes or don't respond at all, the current channel will be switched to the second recording Mux / Channel
 

Trev

The Dumb One
Thanks Ezra. I just wondered whether or no that was mihaid's problem and obviously wasn't certain what happened.
 
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mihaid

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More info required. You had two recordings running between 20:00:00 and 20:00:10, another recording could only have started subsequent to that. Do you have a failed recording due to higher priority?
there was a recording on ch4hd due at 20.00. that recording failed to track. failed after only 10 seconds?
 
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mihaid

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The same happens for both a) and b), when it is time to record the second programme, a message will be displayed saying the channel will be switched Y / N, if you answer No, the second recording will be cancelled, if you say Yes or don't respond at all, the current channel will be switched to the second recording Mux / Channel
I've noticed this behaviour and punched myself in the face when I answered no to the message.
 
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mihaid

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further info which seems to tell me that there should have been no conflict
 

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af123

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What is not clear to me is:

what is happening at 19.52 ?
Looks like somebody put the Humax into standby (remote control or front-panel button) whilst still recording and then woke it up again 8 second later.
 

Black Hole

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there was a recording on ch4hd due at 20.00. that recording failed to track. failed after only 10 seconds?
Well, yes. The programme ID (used to trigger an AR recording) can be transmitted throughout the programme, but we have noted that sometimes (some broadcasters) only transmit it at the start of the programme. If the HDR was otherwise occupied at that moment it will not have had another chance to trigger the recording within the valid time window, and gave up "unable to track".
 

af123

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A failed-to-track that quickly implies that your box was on a Mux from a different region - do you have multiple regions tuned? A screenshot of the webif Diagnostics->Channels page would quickly show us.
 
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mihaid

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Looks like somebody put the Humax into standby (remote control or front-panel button) whilst still recording and then woke it up again 8 second later.
How could that be? the diary picture above says I was either watching uncle buck or the dragons.

only one region tuned see below
 

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mihaid

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Well, yes. The programme ID (used to trigger an AR recording) can be transmitted throughout the programme, but we have noted that sometimes (some broadcasters) only transmit it at the start of the programme. If the HDR was otherwise occupied at that moment it will not have had another chance to trigger the recording within the valid time window, and gave up "unable to track".
This sounds the most plausible even if hard to believe that they stopped the ID ten seconds into the programme. I usually get higher priority truncated recordings 10 minutes in.
 
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