Upgrading HDD

Ezra Pound

Well-Known Member
I'm not familiar with the WD Black but, it is recommended that you fit a hard drive that is designed for recording and playing back Video streams and the WD Black doesn't seem to mention that. The maximum size of drive the the Humax will format for you is 1TB, it is possible to install up to a 2TB drive but you would have to format it and prepare it for recording before fitting it to the Humax on a computer / laptop so it is a more complex procedure. There is a link to a 'Recommended HDDs' thread HERE
 
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peterpi

peterpi

Member
I'm not familiar with the WD Black but, it is recommended that you fit a hard drive that is designed for recording and playing back Video streams and the WD Black doesn't seem to mention that. The maximum size of drive the the Humax will format for you is 1TB, it is possible to install up to a 2TB drive but you would have to format it and prepare it for recording before fitting it to the Humax on a computer / laptop so it is a more complex procedure. There is a link to a 'Recommended HDDs' thread HERE

I can format to EXT on my 'puter, but I think I'll stick with 1TB anyhow. I chose the "Black" drive as it seems to be more reliable (5 Years warranty), but as you have indicated there are other considerations like read write speeds I suppose.

Thanks anyhow.
 

MartinLiddle

Super Moderator
Staff member
I can format to EXT on my 'puter, but I think I'll stick with 1TB anyhow. I chose the "Black" drive as it seems to be more reliable (5 Years warranty), but as you have indicated there are other considerations like read write speeds I suppose.
The risk of using a drive that is not optimised for PVR usage is that as the disk ages and develops marginal sectors you are likely to get bad stuttering on play back. I must say that a 5 year warranty is attractive. If you do go down this route please keep us informed on how it works out long term.
 
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peterpi

peterpi

Member
The risk of using a drive that is not optimised for PVR usage is that as the disk ages and develops marginal sectors you are likely to get bad stuttering on play back. I must say that a 5 year warranty is attractive. If you do go down this route please keep us informed on how it works out long term.


If I do use the WD Black I will report back.

The reason for choosing a WD drive is because I've found them reliable in the past, but I'm open to suggestions.
 

Wallace

Traveler 34122
WD drives are my drives of choice. I have been using them now for several years in all my PVR's. You can see from my signature the types I use.
Please note that their new HDD's are Advance Format and might require sectors aligning to maximise its efficiency.
 

John1212

New Member
More disk woes.

On 13th May 2013 I replaced my original 1TB drive (Seagate ST31000424CS) with a 1TB Seagate ST100VM002 because it was starting to "tick" and cause playback pauses. SMART data showed a pending sector count of 1 and an increasing remapped sector count. Machine was purchased on 15th December 2010 so disk lasted just over 2 years.

On June 8th 2014, just over a year later, the Webif started showing similar SMART errors on the new drive (may have been earlier but hadn't looked at webif for a while). Unfortunately just out of the Ebuyer 1yr warranty although Seagate website shows I have a 3 year makers warranty. Also unfortunately the problems had caused an issue with the CF partition so I was unable to run diagnostics and didnt want to risk further problems by rewriting the CF.

I have just bought a 1TB WDC WD10EURX from Ebuyer which formatted OK under 1.03.12 FW with CF 2.23. I had read there may be auto parking issues with this drive but that this had been factory disabled in later drives. No problems so far.

I am currently transferring all files from the old drive to the new and will then investigate what is wrong with the Seagate drive and if necessary RMA to Seagate for a replacement - handy as a spare.

I am wondering , since having the new disk I have always run close to capacity on the drive so new files may get increasingly framented as space is at a premium. This could be causing extra thrashing of the disk which reduces its life. Starting to wish I'd bought a 2TB disk now as I see from other posts that it may be possible to natively format 2TB with the latest firmware.
 

MartinLiddle

Super Moderator
Staff member
On 13th May 2013 I replaced my original 1TB drive (Seagate ST31000424CS) with a 1TB Seagate ST100VM002 because it was starting to "tick" and cause playback pauses. SMART data showed a pending sector count of 1 and an increasing remapped sector count. Machine was purchased on 15th December 2010 so disk lasted just over 2 years.
What was the remapped sector count when replaced?
On June 8th 2014, just over a year later, the Webif started showing similar SMART errors on the new drive (may have been earlier but hadn't looked at webif for a while). Unfortunately just out of the Ebuyer 1yr warranty although Seagate website shows I have a 3 year makers warranty. Also unfortunately the problems had caused an issue with the CF partition so I was unable to run diagnostics and didnt want to risk further problems by rewriting the CF.
You should have been able to run fix-disk which only needs Telnet access; did you try?
I am currently transferring all files from the old drive to the new and will then investigate what is wrong with the Seagate drive and if necessary RMA to Seagate for a replacement - handy as a spare.
interesting to know what happens if you go down that route.
 

John1212

New Member
What was the remapped sector count when replaced?

You should have been able to run fix-disk which only needs Telnet access; did you try?

interesting to know what happens if you go down that route.

I put the ST31000424CS disk back in before buying my new one and after running for a while it was showing 633 remapped sectors - it had previously been zeroed using seagate tools. Can't remember the count on the ST100VM002 at present - I'll repost when I reattach it but it was in the low teens - I was being proactive in replacing early.

I didn't try runnnig fix-disk as I wanted to transfer the files before going any further. I will do this and post back here - I am hoping to finish the transfer today. Same with the RMA if it comes to it.

I think in future I will try an alternate and format the disk in the humax and then mount the new and old disks physically in a PC under linux and transfer the files that way - takes way too long via USB.
 

John1212

New Member
I put the ST31000424CS disk back in before buying my new one and after running for a while it was showing 633 remapped sectors - it had previously been zeroed using seagate tools. Can't remember the count on the ST100VM002 at present - I'll repost when I reattach it but it was in the low teens - I was being proactive in replacing early.

I didn't try running fix-disk as I wanted to transfer the files before going any further. I will do this and post back here - I am hoping to finish the transfer today. Same with the RMA if it comes to it.

I think in future I will try an alternate and format the disk in the humax and then mount the new and old disks physically in a PC under linux and transfer the files that way - takes way too long via USB.

Update on fix-disk.

I put old ST1000VM002 back in the Humax and the webif was showing
!! WARNING !!

There appear to be some hardware problems with the internal hard disk on this device.

Disk realloc sector count is: 8
Disk pending sector count is: 248
Disk offline sector count is: 248

but was unable to look at hard disk diagnostics because of
Runtime Error: /mod/webif/lib/settings.class:125: attempt to write a readonly database in procedure '.00000000000000000006>' called at file "disk.jim", line 20 in procedure 'settings _tval_setting' called at file "/mod/lib/jim/oo.tcl", line 46 at file "/mod/lib/jim/oo.tcl", line 62 at file "/mod/webif/lib/settings.class", line 125

I called up a telnet session and ran a short and long test

# 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 9219 1563894384
# 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 9219 1563894384

both showing aproblem at sector 1563894384

I ran fix disk a number of times with repair bad bock option - but it wasn't fixing it.


Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 1563894384
Do you wish to attempt repair of the bad block? [Y/N]: Y

/dev/sda:
re-writing sector 1563894384: succeeded

Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 1563894384
Do you wish to attempt repair of the bad block? [Y/N]: Y

/dev/sda:
re-writing sector 1563894384: succeeded

Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 1563894384
Do you wish to attempt repair of the bad block? [Y/N]:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

I then ran it without the repair option, which found a number of filesystem errors in /mod/bin and fixed them.
Code:
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Fix-disk run starting...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
Checking disk sda
 
Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 1563894384
Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 1563894384
Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 1563894384
Skipped repair of LBA 1563894384
Using superblock 0 on sda1
Using superblock 0 on sda2
Using superblock 0 on sda3
LBA: 1563894384 is on partition /dev/sda2, start: 2104512, bad sector offset: 1561789872
LBA 1563894384 maps to file system block 195223734 on /dev/sda2
Block 195223734 is marked as in use
Inode: 48603236
 
The following file contains a corrupt block and can not be fully recovered.
Inode Pathname
48603236 /mnt/hd2/mod/monitor/monitor.db
LBA: 1563894384 is on partition /dev/sda2, start: 2104512, bad sector offset: 1561789872
LBA 1563894384 maps to file system block 195223734 on /dev/sda2
Block 195223734 is marked as in use
Inode: 48603236
 
The following file contains a corrupt block and can not be fully recovered.
Inode Pathname
48603236 /mnt/hd2/mod/monitor/monitor.db
 
Checking partition /dev/sda3...
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
hmx_int_stor: | | 0.9%
hmx_int_stor: |= / 2.6%
hmx_int_stor: |== - 3.5%
hmx_int_stor: |== \ 5.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=== | 6.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=== / 6.9%
hmx_int_stor: |==== - 8.6%
hmx_int_stor: |===== \ 9.5%
hmx_int_stor: |===== | 11.2%
hmx_int_stor: |====== / 12.1%
hmx_int_stor: |======= - 13.8%
hmx_int_stor: |======= \ 14.7%
hmx_int_stor: |======== | 16.4%
hmx_int_stor: |======== / 17.3%
hmx_int_stor: |========= - 19.0%
hmx_int_stor: |========== \ 19.9%
hmx_int_stor: |========== | 20.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=========== / 22.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=========== - 23.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============ \ 25.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============ | 25.9%
hmx_int_stor: |============= / 27.7%
hmx_int_stor: |============== - 28.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=============== \ 30.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=============== | 31.1%
hmx_int_stor: |================ / 32.8%
hmx_int_stor: |================ - 33.7%
hmx_int_stor: |================= \ 35.4%
hmx_int_stor: |================= | 36.3%
hmx_int_stor: |================== / 38.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=================== - 38.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=================== \ 39.8%
hmx_int_stor: |==================== | 41.5%
hmx_int_stor: |==================== / 42.3%
hmx_int_stor: |===================== - 44.1%
hmx_int_stor: |====================== \ 44.9%
hmx_int_stor: |====================== | 46.7%
hmx_int_stor: |======================= / 47.5%
hmx_int_stor: |======================= - 48.4%
hmx_int_stor: |======================== \ 50.1%
hmx_int_stor: |======================== | 51.0%
hmx_int_stor: |========================= / 52.7%
hmx_int_stor: |========================== - 53.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=========================== \ 55.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=========================== | 56.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=========================== / 57.0%
hmx_int_stor: |============================ - 58.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================= \ 59.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================= | 61.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================== / 62.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================== - 64.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================== \ 64.8%
hmx_int_stor: |================================ | 66.5%
hmx_int_stor: |================================ / 67.4%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= - 68.3%
hmx_int_stor: |================================== \ 70.0%

Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
/lost+found not found. Create? yes
 
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ | 92.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ / 92.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= - 92.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 93.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= | 93.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= / 94.0%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= - 94.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 94.7%

Pass 5: Checking group summary information
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 96.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 97.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 97.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 98.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 98.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 98.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 98.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 98.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 99.0%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================/ 99.2%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================- 99.3%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================\ 99.5%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 99.7%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================/ 99.9%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 100.0%


hmx_int_stor: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
hmx_int_stor: 13/655776 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 147835/2622611 blocks
 
Checking partition /dev/sda1...
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
hmx_int_stor: |==== | 7.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=========== / 23.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=============== - 31.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=================== \ 38.9%
hmx_int_stor: |========================== | 54.4%
hmx_int_stor: |================================== / 70.0%

Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
/lost+found not found. Create? yes
 
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ - 92.3%

Pass 5: Checking group summary information
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 97.5%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 99.2%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 100.0%


hmx_int_stor: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
hmx_int_stor: 15/65808 files (6.7% non-contiguous), 13794/263062 blocks
 
Checking partition /dev/sda2...
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
hmx_int_stor: | | 0.1%
hmx_int_stor: | / 0.2%
hmx_int_stor: | - 0.3%
hmx_int_stor: | \ 0.4%
hmx_int_stor: | | 0.5%
hmx_int_stor: | / 0.6%
hmx_int_stor: | - 0.7%
hmx_int_stor: | \ 0.8%
hmx_int_stor: | | 0.9%
hmx_int_stor: | / 1.0%
hmx_int_stor: |= - 1.1%
hmx_int_stor: |= \ 1.2%
hmx_int_stor: |= | 1.3%
hmx_int_stor: |= / 1.4%
hmx_int_stor: |= - 1.5%
hmx_int_stor: |= \ 1.6%
hmx_int_stor: |= | 1.7%
hmx_int_stor: |= / 1.8%
hmx_int_stor: |= - 1.9%
hmx_int_stor: |= \ 2.0%
hmx_int_stor: |= | 2.1%
hmx_int_stor: |= / 2.2%
hmx_int_stor: |= - 2.3%
hmx_int_stor: |= \ 2.4%
hmx_int_stor: |= | 2.5%
hmx_int_stor: |= / 2.6%
hmx_int_stor: |= - 2.7%
hmx_int_stor: |= \ 2.8%
hmx_int_stor: |= | 2.9%
hmx_int_stor: |= / 3.0%
hmx_int_stor: |= - 3.1%
hmx_int_stor: |== \ 3.2%
hmx_int_stor: |== | 3.3%
hmx_int_stor: |== / 3.4%
hmx_int_stor: |== - 3.5%
hmx_int_stor: |== \ 3.6%
hmx_int_stor: |== | 3.7%
hmx_int_stor: |== / 3.8%
hmx_int_stor: |== - 3.9%
hmx_int_stor: |== \ 4.0%
hmx_int_stor: |== | 4.1%
hmx_int_stor: |== / 4.2%
hmx_int_stor: |== - 4.3%
hmx_int_stor: |== \ 4.4%
hmx_int_stor: |== | 4.5%
hmx_int_stor: |== / 4.6%
hmx_int_stor: |== - 4.7%
hmx_int_stor: |== \ 4.8%
hmx_int_stor: |== | 4.9%
hmx_int_stor: |== / 5.0%
hmx_int_stor: |== - 5.1%
hmx_int_stor: |== \ 5.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=== | 5.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=== / 5.4%
hmx_int_stor: |=== - 5.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=== \ 5.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=== | 5.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=== / 5.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=== - 5.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=== \ 6.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=== | 6.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=== / 6.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=== - 6.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=== \ 6.4%
hmx_int_stor: |=== | 6.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=== / 6.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=== - 6.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=== \ 6.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=== | 6.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=== / 7.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=== - 7.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=== \ 7.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=== | 7.3%
hmx_int_stor: |==== / 7.4%
hmx_int_stor: |==== - 7.5%
hmx_int_stor: |==== \ 7.6%
hmx_int_stor: |==== | 7.7%
hmx_int_stor: |==== / 7.8%
hmx_int_stor: |==== - 7.9%
hmx_int_stor: |==== \ 8.0%
hmx_int_stor: |==== | 8.1%
hmx_int_stor: |==== / 8.2%
hmx_int_stor: |==== - 8.3%
hmx_int_stor: |==== \ 8.4%
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hmx_int_stor: |==== / 8.6%
hmx_int_stor: |==== - 8.7%
hmx_int_stor: |==== \ 8.8%
hmx_int_stor: |==== | 8.9%
hmx_int_stor: |==== / 9.0%
hmx_int_stor: |==== - 9.1%
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hmx_int_stor: |==== / 9.4%
hmx_int_stor: |===== - 9.5%
hmx_int_stor: |===== \ 9.6%
hmx_int_stor: |===== | 9.7%
hmx_int_stor: |===== / 9.8%
hmx_int_stor: |===== - 9.9%
hmx_int_stor: |===== \ 10.0%
hmx_int_stor: |===== | 10.1%
hmx_int_stor: |===== / 10.2%
hmx_int_stor: |===== - 10.3%
hmx_int_stor: |===== \ 10.4%
hmx_int_stor: |===== | 10.5%
hmx_int_stor: |===== / 10.6%
hmx_int_stor: |===== - 10.7%
hmx_int_stor: |===== \ 10.8%
hmx_int_stor: |===== | 10.9%
hmx_int_stor: |===== / 11.0%
hmx_int_stor: |===== - 11.1%
hmx_int_stor: |===== \ 11.2%
hmx_int_stor: |===== | 11.3%
hmx_int_stor: |===== / 11.4%
hmx_int_stor: |===== - 11.5%
hmx_int_stor: |====== \ 11.6%
hmx_int_stor: |====== | 11.7%
hmx_int_stor: |====== / 11.8%
hmx_int_stor: |====== - 11.9%
hmx_int_stor: |====== \ 12.0%
hmx_int_stor: |====== | 12.1%
hmx_int_stor: |====== / 12.2%
hmx_int_stor: |====== - 12.3%
hmx_int_stor: |====== \ 12.4%
hmx_int_stor: |====== | 12.5%
hmx_int_stor: |====== / 12.6%
hmx_int_stor: |====== - 12.7%
hmx_int_stor: |====== \ 12.8%
hmx_int_stor: |====== | 12.9%
hmx_int_stor: |====== / 13.0%
hmx_int_stor: |====== - 13.1%
hmx_int_stor: |====== \ 13.2%
hmx_int_stor: |====== | 13.3%
hmx_int_stor: |====== / 13.4%
hmx_int_stor: |====== - 13.5%
hmx_int_stor: |======= \ 13.6%
hmx_int_stor: |======= | 13.7%
hmx_int_stor: |======= / 13.8%
hmx_int_stor: |======= - 13.9%
hmx_int_stor: |======= \ 14.0%
hmx_int_stor: |======= | 14.1%
hmx_int_stor: |======= / 14.2%
hmx_int_stor: |======= - 14.3%
hmx_int_stor: |======= \ 14.4%
hmx_int_stor: |======= | 14.5%
hmx_int_stor: |======= / 14.6%
hmx_int_stor: |======= - 14.7%
hmx_int_stor: |======= \ 14.8%
hmx_int_stor: |======= | 14.9%
hmx_int_stor: |======= / 15.0%
hmx_int_stor: |======= - 15.1%
hmx_int_stor: |======= \ 15.2%
hmx_int_stor: |======= | 15.3%
hmx_int_stor: |======= / 15.4%
hmx_int_stor: |======= - 15.5%
hmx_int_stor: |======= \ 15.6%
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hmx_int_stor: |================================= - 67.9%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= \ 68.0%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= | 68.1%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= / 68.2%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= - 68.3%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= \ 68.4%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= | 68.5%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= / 68.6%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= - 68.7%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= \ 68.8%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= | 68.9%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= / 69.0%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= - 69.1%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= \ 69.2%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= | 69.3%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= / 69.4%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= - 69.5%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= \ 69.6%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= | 69.7%
hmx_int_stor: |================================= / 69.8%
hmx_int_stor: |================================== - 69.9%
hmx_int_stor: |================================== \ 70.0%

Pass 2: Checking directory structure
hmx_int_stor: |================================== | 70.1%
hmx_int_stor: |================================== / 70.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=================================== - 72.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=================================== \ 72.9%

Entry 'smbstatus' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140929. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'smbpasswd' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140930. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'smbclient' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140931. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'testparm' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140932. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'snice' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140933. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'pwdx' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140934. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'vmstat' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140935. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'pkill' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140936. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'skill' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140933. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'kill' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140937. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'uptime' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140938. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'free' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140939. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'ps' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140940. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'top' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140941. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'pgrep' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140936. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'tload' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140942. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'pmap' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140943. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'watch' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140944. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'w' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140945. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'slabtop' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140946. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'fusermount' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140948. Clear? yes
 
Entry 'ulockmgr_server' in /mod/bin (48594946) has deleted/unused inode 54140949. Clear? yes
 
hmx_int_stor: |=================================== | 73.9%
hmx_int_stor: |==================================== / 74.7%
hmx_int_stor: |===================================== - 78.0%
hmx_int_stor: |====================================== \ 80.2%
hmx_int_stor: |======================================= | 81.6%
hmx_int_stor: |======================================== / 83.9%
hmx_int_stor: |========================================= - 84.7%
hmx_int_stor: |========================================== \ 86.7%
hmx_int_stor: |========================================== | 87.4%
hmx_int_stor: |========================================== / 88.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=========================================== - 88.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=========================================== \ 90.0%

Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
/lost+found not found. Create? yes
 
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ | 92.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ / 92.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ - 92.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ \ 92.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ | 92.5%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ / 92.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================ - 92.7%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 92.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= | 92.9%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= / 93.0%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= - 93.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 93.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= | 93.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= / 93.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= - 93.5%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 93.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= | 93.7%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= / 93.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= - 93.9%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 94.0%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= | 94.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= / 94.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= - 94.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 94.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= | 94.5%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= / 94.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= - 94.7%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================= \ 94.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 94.9%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 95.0%

Pass 5: Checking group summary information
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 95.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 95.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 95.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 95.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 95.5%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 95.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 95.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 95.9%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 96.0%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 96.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 96.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 96.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 96.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 96.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 96.7%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 96.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 96.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 97.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 97.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 97.2%

Block bitmap differences: -(216573952--216574556) -(216578048--216578056) -(216580096--216580170)
Fix? yes
 
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 95.0%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 95.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 95.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 95.4%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 95.5%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 95.7%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 95.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 95.9%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 96.0%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 96.1%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 96.2%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 96.3%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 96.5%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== \ 96.6%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== | 96.7%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== / 96.8%
hmx_int_stor: |============================================== - 96.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 97.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 97.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 97.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 97.4%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 97.5%

Free blocks count wrong for group #6609 (31565, counted=32254).
Fix? yes
 
Free blocks count wrong (51777806, counted=51778495).
Fix? yes
 
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 97.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 97.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 97.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 97.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 98.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 98.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 98.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 98.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 98.4%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 98.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 98.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 98.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 98.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 98.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 99.0%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================\ 99.1%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 99.2%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================/ 99.3%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================- 99.4%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================\ 99.5%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 99.6%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================/ 99.7%

Inode bitmap differences: -(54140929--54140946) -(54140948--54140949)
Fix? yes
 
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 97.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 97.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 97.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 97.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 97.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 98.0%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 98.1%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 98.2%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 98.3%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 98.4%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 98.5%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 98.6%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== - 98.7%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== \ 98.8%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== | 98.9%
hmx_int_stor: |=============================================== / 99.0%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================- 99.1%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================\ 99.2%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 99.3%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================/ 99.4%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================- 99.5%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================\ 99.6%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 99.7%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================/ 99.8%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================- 99.9%
hmx_int_stor: |================================================| 100.0%

Free inodes count wrong for group #6609 (8172, counted=8192).
Fix? yes
 
Free inodes count wrong (60327013, counted=60327033).
Fix? yes
 
 
hmx_int_stor: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
hmx_int_stor: 7047/60334080 files (10.8% non-contiguous), 189525836/241304331 blocks
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fix-disk run ended.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
However afterwards short and long tests still showed a read failure but in a different sector

# 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 9222 254872
# 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 9222 0

Smart data still showed high values for 197 and 198

197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 099 098 000 Old_age Always - 270
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 099 098 000 Old_age Offline - 270
and 5 showing reallocated
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 32

Ran fix-disk again which showed faulty sector was not in use :-

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fix-disk run starting...
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Checking disk sda

Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 254872
Running short disk self test
Error at LBA 254872
Skipped repair of LBA 254872
Using superblock 0 on sda1
Using superblock 0 on sda2
Using superblock 0 on sda3
LBA: 254872 is on partition /dev/sda1, start: 8, bad sector offset: 254864
LBA 254872 maps to file system block 31858 on /dev/sda1
Block 31858 is not in use

Checking partition /dev/sda3...
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
☻Pass 2: Checking directory structure
☻Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
☻Pass 5: Checking group summary information
☻hmx_int_stor: 14/655776 files (7.1% non-contiguous), 147858/2622611 blocks

Checking partition /dev/sda1...
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
☻Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
☻Pass 5: Checking group summary information
☻hmx_int_stor: 15/65808 files (6.7% non-contiguous), 13794/263062 blocks

Checking partition /dev/sda2...
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
☻hmx_int_stor: e2fsck canceled.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fix-disk run ended.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Tried repairing this faulty sector which said succeeded :-

HDRFOXT2# hdparm --repair-sector 254872 --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
re-writing sector 254872: succeeded


Rebooted and webif has an increase in errors

!! WARNING !!

There appear to be some hardware problems with the internal hard disk on this device.

Disk realloc sector count is: 48
Disk pending sector count is: 268
Disk offline sector count is: 268



Have now abandoned this and have put the disk in my PC and booted up a Seagate Seatools for DOS CD.

Short test showed a failure.
Running a long test now.
Within the first few seconds it found 7 errors .......
After 3 hours 100 errors.


Unfortunately I now discover that the DOS version will only do the first 100 errors so as I had 26 I would have to run it 3 times!!!

The disk in the Humax now shows 168 pending sectors (i.e. less the 100 repaired ones from Seatools) :-

HDRFOXT2# smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [7405b0-smp-linux-2.6.18-7.1] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9227 -



SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 097 088 006 Pre-fail Always - 89794776
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 097 097 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 145
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 48
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 082 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 175103446
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 090 090 000 Old_age Always - 9227
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 128
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 001 001 000 Old_age Always - 184
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 099 000 Old_age Always - 4295032833
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 087 087 000 Old_age Always - 13
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 067 044 045 Old_age Always In_the_past 33 (0 19 34 33)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 126
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 145
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 033 056 000 Old_age Always - 33 (0 15 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 099 098 000 Old_age Always - 168
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 099 098 000 Old_age Offline - 168
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

back in maintenace mode when I now run fix-disk it recognises there are pending sectors and gives a diffferent option - don't know why it didnt do this the first time around - would have probably fixed everything. Seems to be becuase it found a short test error it fixed that first and so ignored the pendings.

Please select option: 1
Any additional options (or press return for none):
Are you sure you wish to run the hard disk checker? [Y/N] Y
Running /bin/fix-disk
Custom firmware version 2.23


Checking disk sda

Unmounted /dev/sda1
Unmounted /dev/sda2
Unmounted /dev/sda3

Running short disk self test

Pending sector error(s) found

LBA has not yet been found
A long test is required - this could take 2 hour(s) 19 minutes
Do you wish to continue? [Y/N]:
I have aborted this for now as I need to use the Humax.

I will instead use the Windows Seatools on the disk as I think this doesn't have the 100 error limit. When complete I will mount in the Humax and see how it is then behaving.

An interesting point is Seatools originaly gave me a failure code which I could use for RMA. However if I fix all the errors I assume it will not give me an error code. Can I still use the old code to raise an RMA or will I have to wait for it to fail again???? Will have to see after this run. Humax shows the reallocated sector count of 48 in Yellow.

More later.

Update :-

Have run Seatools for Windows which failed on the "FixAll Short" and "FixAll Long" Tests - telling me to use Seatools for DOS instead so it looks like I'm going to have to run that twice to fix the 168 errors.

Faulty sectors repaired by Seatools for DOS :-

Code:
No. Start End
7    254783    254789 (Not 8. 254782 seems to have been fixed by fix-disk)
15 1563894385 1563894399 (Not 16. 1563894384 seems to have been fixed by fix-disk)
7  1563897225 1563897231 (Not 8. 1563897224 seems to have been fixed by fix-disk)
7  1627258329 1627258335 ??
48 1635363984 1635364029
16 1635429968 1635429983

Total of 100

2nd run
Code:
100   1635429984 1635430083

Questions :

1. The faulty blocks seem to be in blocks of 8 (8 * 512 = 4096 - is this something to do with the new 4K sector sizes. However if so why was it necessary to repair all 8 blocks unless LBAs are striped across 4K sectors??)
2. Why did fix-disk find only the first sector to fix but not the next 7??

John

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John1212

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Update:

Continued to have problems with the ST1000VM002 disk.

Each time I ran Seatools it found another 100 sectors to repair.

1635430084 to 1635430183
and latest yesterday evening
1341499432 to 1341499435 and
1341582336 to 1341582431

Have decided to bite the bullet and RMA to Seagate. Have obtained a returns number via their web site, (http://support.seagate.com/customer/en-GB/warranty_validation.jsp?form=1) packaged it up and will post it later today.
The site makes a big thing about getting an error code from Seatools to validate the fault but when you come to raise the RMA it does not ask for it so I have written it manually on the returns form.

In Warranty
  • This drive is covered by a Seagate warranty.
  • If the drive is defective, it may be returned for exchange. You will not receive your original drive in return. Please do not return a healthy drive. Seagate reserves the right to return a good drive back to its owner and to charge for all associated shipping costs.

    Test with SeaTools to verify the drive is failing and save the SeaTools Test Code result number to validate the drive failed SeaTools testing.
Their packaging instructions are fairly strict about not using bubble wrap, etc.
Will post when there is a verdict on a replacment.
 

John1212

New Member
Final part of the replacement hard disk story. Seagate have replaced the drive with a "Certified Repaired HDD" - not new - but it does have an almost 2 year warranty until 27-Mar-2016. Same model as the old one - ST1000VM002-1CT162. Have installed it in my spare HDR-FOX T2 - CF disk diagnostics show all SMART parameters OK now so fingers crossed this one lasts.

John

P.S. As an aside to this, I checked on the Seagate site for the warranty situation with the original Humax drive and it stated that this was an OEM drive and the warranty was with the OEM suppplier so you can't get it replaced direct with Seagate
 
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