General incompetence

Ignorance, poor training, not knowing how the kit and the systems work are all to blame,
Parts of the BBC do good work only to have it ruined by poor training.
I used to have problems with BBC radio and the RDS travel announcements. Some useless tossers at WM kept forgetting to flick the switch to turn TA off. Loud unwanted music erupting from my speakers! A good system developed by BBC Engineering, ruined by DJs or news presenters or their producers.
 
Parts of the BBC do good work only to have it ruined by poor training.
I used to have problems with BBC radio and the RDS travel announcements. Some useless tossers at WM kept forgetting to flick the switch to turn TA off. Loud unwanted music erupting from my speakers! A good system developed by BBC Engineering, ruined by DJs or news presenters or their producers.
It's in their interests to keep you listening to their station, so tardiness switching off TA is to be expected.
 
I used to have problems with BBC radio and the RDS travel announcements. Some useless tossers at WM kept forgetting to flick the switch to turn TA off. Loud unwanted music erupting from my speakers! A good system developed by BBC Engineering, ruined by DJs or news presenters or their producers.
It's in their interests to keep you listening to their station, so tardiness switching off TA is to be expected.
Poor training... and they got royally ---censored--- for doing it by senior management of Local Radio (and based in Brum as it happens)...

All events were logged in the RDS computer systems and, eventually, a time-out was introduced to stop the accidental incidents. {Some/many? TAs were triggered by tones on the jingles at start/end -- assuming that new jingles had them added correctly, on cartridges back in the day}.
EDIT IIRC there was also a big flashing red light installed to 'remind' them!!

The same issues with AR schedule changes were occurring in the analogue PDC days and it was never easy to get to the 'right' management chain within that, fragmented, system at that time.

Only way to 'encourage' better practice at BBC is to log it in the Audience Complaints system. The logs are distributed to (and read at) the highest levels internally.

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On another AR/CRID error: EastEnders BBC ONE had a new one yesterday for this coming week (that includes a, rare, Friday episode).
 
In this day an age of sat-navs with real time traffic monitoring does anyone bother with keep RDS/TA turned on on in their car radio? 😕
 
In this day an age of sat-navs with real time traffic monitoring does anyone bother with keep RDS/TA turned on on in their car radio? 😕
Yes. Because I use the built in sat nav in my car from 2002 since it knows much better where cars can and can't sensibly go. If I use Google or Apple maps on my iPhone or iPad they invariably try to take me down a farm track or some other route that is technically, legally open to cars but in practice you're daft if you try it. The last one was across a live airfield and runway which technically you can drive across if there's no light aircraft landing. That was the last straw for me with driving live using phone or tablet satnav.
 
Whatever sat-nav you use you do not turn off the sanity check switch in your brain.
Indeed. But at the point you are looking at a turn into a farm track that you don't want to drive down, you're probably several miles away from where you should be to go a better way.
 
Yes. Because I use the built in sat nav in my car from 2002 since it knows much better where cars can and can't sensibly go. If I use Google or Apple maps on my iPhone or iPad they invariably try to take me down a farm track or some other route that is technically, legally open to cars but in practice you're daft if you try it. The last one was across a live airfield and runway which technically you can drive across if there's no light aircraft landing. That was the last straw for me with driving live using phone or tablet satnav.
Shuttleworth?
 
Shuttleworth?
Little Staughton, and I'm still not sure the mapping apps were correct in advising I could drive across the runway. I decided no way, and used the car satnav which basically said "I wouldn't start from here".

The problem now is the last map CD was issued in 2015, I'm using one from 2014. Roads don't change that often, but eventually it will be inconveniently out of date.
 
Built-in satnavs are (or were) bad. Expensive to keep updated, orphaned, or capabilities exceeded. Much better to have a separate (eg my TomTom), which can be replaced when necessary. Linked through Bluetooth to my phone's data connection I get live traffic, and if/when I need to bin it I gather the new models will tell you what the price of petrol is (now garages are obliged to tell the central database what they're selling at, and no more need for the PetrolPrices app). Go for one with free lifetime map updates.

However, a friend (who sees no point in dedicated satnavs and used Waze on his phone) now uses Waze on his phone pushed through to a dashboard Car Android screen (or whatever it is). Seems to me like the best of both worlds (I find Waze' location tracking a little suspect, but there are other options such as Google).

Yes I do review the route TomTom wants to take me on – usually I know better and just want traffic warnings. On my drive to Bournemouth it wants me to go M4/A34/M3?M27 rather than A350 because that is 10 minutes slower (it thinks), but 50 miles extra (that's £10!). But then the alternative routing is without optimisations that get offered along the way only when you get near them (and some it never offers), so I beat the motorway ETA as well as the mileage.

I regularly report anomalies via the TomTom reporter website. Some time ago I realised a road was missing, I wondered why it was trying to take me the long way around and when I investigated I found the aerial photos didn't show the road because it was under trees. Another time I was somewhere I didn't know and it tried to take me through a dead end with a pedestrian walkway the only continuation.

The idiots who drive into water because they're just following the directions make me laugh, but i must confess I've done that myself without the aid of satnav – I didn't realise how deep it was going to get and only decided to back out rather late (but in time, fortunately).
 
I'm using one from 2014. Roads don't change that often
My god. So it wont know about any of the major improvements around Cambridge-Bedford, nor the "missing link" (Swindon to Gloucester) etc etc. Or any of the 20mph/low traffic neighbourhoods/congestion zones/low emission zones. Yes, OK, the major network doesn't change very quickly, but when there is a change it can make substantial differences to journeys and routes.
 
Built-in satnavs are (or were) bad.
However they have a roof mounted active antenna (aerial?) which uses the car roof as a ground plane. For two decades this alone meant it received satellites far better than any hand held device inside the car. It is only the newest phones and tables with 20 years improvement in receiver front ends and receiving GPS, Glonass and Galileo (the car only does GPS) satellites that handheld devices have reception to rival my car.

Also the car satnav does fuzzy matching against the map, so if you drive around a roundabout which it thinks is 50 yards further up the road it corrects and puts you on the roundabout. It does this using the ABS brake sensors on the front wheels to detect going round the corners. It also uses the ABS brake sensors for cornering and the speedometer to do dead reckoning when you are in tunnels or lose all satellite reception. No handheld device can possibly do any of that, they don't have the data from the car.

When parked you don't have to dismount anything and hide it in the glove box or take it with you to avoid some scrote breaking into the car to steal it.

But I'll admit a big reason for getting the factory fitted satnav on my 2002 Mini Cooper S is it was the only way to get the speedometer behind the steering wheel next to the rev counter. On test drives of demo Minis I just could not get my head round the speedometer being in the middle of the car. I know it was a retro touch to the original mini, but I feel it was a retro touch too far.
My god. So it wont know about any of the major improvements around Cambridge-Bedford, nor the "missing link" (Swindon to Gloucester) etc etc. Or any of the 20mph/low traffic neighbourhoods/congestion zones/low emission zones. Yes, OK, the major network doesn't change very quickly, but when there is a change it can make substantial differences to journeys and routes.
Indeed it does not, and I often drive on the new A14 north of Cambridge and Cambridge to Bedford roads. It's quite funny watching the fuzzy matching to the map refuse to move because you must be on a road, eventually it gives up and lets you be in the middle of a field.

The car's satnav knows nothing about speed limits, congestion zones or low emission zones. I don't see this as a problem. Despite being a 2002 car it is allowed in the London ULEZ zone and any other one that has the same rules. It's below the official emissions group but the car model is on the exceptions list as it has low enough NOX emissions.

As for speed limits, I use my eyeballs to adhere to those. I don't want a computer telling me I'm about to enter a 20 zone or automatically slowing me down as new cars do.
 
I should have said I no longer drive long distances to unknown parts but when I do I use the inbuilt sat-nav and the road signs (remember them?) to get me close then if need be use Google Maps on my phone for the last mile.
 
It's not a question of adhering to limits, it is a question of routing around them because they cause a delay.

My TomTom does fuzzy matching too. It has accelerometers.
 
I should have said I no longer drive long distances to unknown parts but when I do I use the inbuilt sat-nav and the road signs (remember them?) to get me close then if need be use Google Maps on my phone for the last mile.
The UK has arguably the best road signs in the world (a result of significant research done in the 1950s for the motorway network). Those plus an AA road atlas used to be sufficient to get anywhere.
 
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