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HDR Fox T2 File ts Editing

fenlander said:
@MGSteve. Reading your posts I'm prompted to check that you haven't missed the 'Crop' option in webif. It's not perfect, but in terms of cost and effort expended against benefit derived, it still wins in my book. See the 'Editing via Web-If' wiki entry here.

The imperfection is that it loses a few seconds of sound after each cut point. I generally place my resume bookmarks at the beginning of the programme title screen that appears after each ad break. That way, although I do see the title screens, I lose nothing significant from the sound track.

As you say, it's easy to transfer files off the box. What you can do or cannot do with them (I'm referring to HD files here) after you've got them off is another matter. Most editors - and I've tried a lot of them - seem to crash at some point when trying to process Hummy files. The last time I looked at VideoReDo, it was only happy saving HD output as a ts file. Freemake's editor crashes if you move the cut point to the end of the file, and truncates output at random. Handbrake also crashes randomly. The most useful process I've found is the 'Quick stream fix' in VideoReDo. Once a Hummy ts file has been through this clean-up process, the resulting file seems to be acceptable to any of the above editors/transcoders. Unfortunately, to get Quick Stream Fix currently costs $95 and I've been unable to locate any free alternative that does the job.
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Hi,

Not read the whole of this thread as just came upon it . . . so apologies if covered before.

I use ProjectX portable to clean up the Humax TS files so that they play properly on certain media players. Might help with your crashing editors ???

Pete
 
I'm a java-free zone, so I'm not keen to go the Project X route at the moment. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
 
I was just going to say that

:)

I use ProjectX Portable - No Jave install needed.

Very simple if all you are doing is a PID scan - Pretty quick too.

>> Prepare > PIDFilter(1:1 Copy)

Add your files

I leave the result in the same folder as first file.

Pete
 
I'll give that a try. I just downloaded the 'jave free' portable version but it immediately said it needed a java SDK to run. Not promising. The .net version also declares itself to be java-based, but seems to be working without actually installing java.
 
????

My Laptop it transpires has Java5 installed from new !

The .net version does install without Java though.

Thanks for spotting the oddness !
 
Someone messed up on 0.91.05 Portable package is my guess ! Earlier versions seem to do what they say . . .

Package 0.91.02 Portable does run straight from the .exe - No installation required - Just unzip and double-click the .exe.

.Net version is a proper install with icons etc. without need to install Java.

Other previous version 0.90.4 Compiled with Java - installs like a real program and doesn't require Java to be installed.

Pete
 
I hope we've got some licensed VRD users who can report back on this. Or someone who's never installed the trial - my machine is trial-expired and I doubt I'll be able to activate a new version.
 
Before edit:

Code: 
General
ID/String                        : 16516 (0x4084)
CompleteName                    : 2698.TS
Format                          : BDAV
Format/Info                      : Blu-ray Video
FileSize/String                  : 948 MiB
Duration/String                  : 26mn 16s
OverallBitRate_Mode/String      : Variable
OverallBitRate/String            : 5 045 Kbps
 
Video
ID/String                        : 6601 (0x19C9)
MenuID/String                    : 17540 (0x4484)
Format                          : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile                  : High@L4.0
Format_Settings_CABAC/String    : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 4 frames
CodecID                          : 27
Duration/String                  : 26mn 16s
Width/String                    : 1 920 pixels
Height/String                    : 1 080 pixels
DisplayAspectRatio/String        : 16:9
FrameRate/String                : 25.000 fps
ColorSpace                      : YUV
ChromaSubsampling                : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String                  : 8 bits
ScanType/String                  : MBAFF
Color primaries                  : BT.709
Transfer characteristics        : BT.709
Matrix coefficients              : BT.709
 
Audio #1
ID/String                        : 6602 (0x19CA)
MenuID/String                    : 17540 (0x4484)
Format                          : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format_Profile                  : LC
MuxingMode                      : LATM
CodecID                          : 17
Duration/String                  : 26mn 16s
BitRate_Mode/String              : Variable
Channel(s)/String                : 6 channels
ChannelPositions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String              : 48.0 KHz
Compression_Mode/String          : Lossy
Video_Delay/String              : -582ms
Language/String                  : English
 
Audio #2
ID/String                        : 6606 (0x19CE)
MenuID/String                    : 17540 (0x4484)
Format                          : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format_Profile                  : HE-AAC / LC
MuxingMode                      : LATM
CodecID                          : 17
Duration/String                  : 26mn 16s
Channel(s)/String                : 1 channel
ChannelPositions                : Front: C
SamplingRate/String              : 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
Compression_Mode/String          : Lossy
Video_Delay/String              : -296ms
Language/String                  : English
Language_More                    : Visual impaired commentary
 
Text
ID/String                        : 6605 (0x19CD)
MenuID/String                    : 17540 (0x4484)
Format                          : DVB Subtitle
CodecID                          : 6
Duration/String                  : 26mn 11s
Video_Delay/String              : 3s 450ms
Language/String                  : English
 
Menu
ID/String                        : 6600 (0x19C8)
MenuID/String                    : 17540 (0x4484)
Duration/String                  : 26mn 16s
List/String                      : 6601 (0x19C9) (AVC) / 6602 (0x19CA) (AAC, English) / 6605 (0x19CD) (DVB Subtitle, English) / 6606 (0x19CE) (AAC, English)
Language/String                  :  / English / English / English
ServiceName                      : BBC One HD
ServiceType                      : advanced codec HD digital television

And after topping and tailing the AR padding:

Code: 
General
ID                                      : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : 2698.ts
Format                                  : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 796 MiB
Duration                                : 25mn 6s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                        : 4 432 Kbps
 
Video
ID                                      : 6601 (0x19C9)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                  : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                          : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC                  : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                : 27
Duration                                : 25mn 6s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                  : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                    : 16:9
Frame rate                              : 25.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                      : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : MBAFF
Scan order                              : Top Field First
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
 
Audio
ID                                      : 6602 (0x19CA)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                  : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version                          : Version 4
Format profile                          : LC
Muxing mode                              : ADTS
Codec ID                                : 15
Duration                                : 25mn 6s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Channel(s)                              : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                        : Lossy
 
Text
ID                                      : 6605 (0x19CD)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                  : DVB Subtitle
Codec ID                                : 6
Duration                                : 25mn 1s
Delay relative to video                  : 5s 510ms
Language                                : English

So, works as expected and nice to see the ADTS audio :)

The edit took 46 seconds to process - Custom built Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4 GHz, 8 GB DDR2, Win8 64

HTH
 
Have you tried any save options other than TS? One of my issues with previous versions was that only TS seemed to work when saving back a Humax file. At least, I'd like to see mp4 working without recoding the video stream.
 
I only ever use it to edit and save as TS and then I use MeGUI to convert to 720p x264 MKV

I'll give it a try with MP4 output and report back
 
This took 42 seconds:

Code: 
General
Complete name                            : 2698.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom
File size                                : 763 MiB
Duration                                 : 25mn 6s
Overall bit rate                         : 4 249 Kbps
Writing application                      : Lavf53.31.100
 
Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 25mn 6s
Bit rate                                 : 3 928 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : MBAFF
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.076
Stream size                              : 705 MiB (92%)
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
 
Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 25mn 6s
Duration_LastFrame                       : -21ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 315 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 56.6 MiB (7%)
Language                                 : English
 
Looking good. How does the editor feel in terms of responsiveness/seek speed etc.? In the past I've used VRD+ to edit SD files from Windows Media Centre and save them as mpg, and the editor is responsive and file save, with no recoding, extremely fast. In comparison, editing HD ts files from the Hummy on VRD H264 has seemed sluggish (even on my i5) and most of the save options, other than ts, just crashed.
 
This sounds like a big step forward. Would a user kindly summarise the overall capabilities of VideoRedo?
 
I don't mind paying decent money for something that does all I am likely to need, and does it well. So, what does it do?
 
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