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HDR Fox T2 File ts Editing

@ grahamlthompson - thanks for the input - I have added Section placeholders on the Wiki page to cover off Converters and Re-Authoring but they're not a specialised subject for me personally (it's took me this long to get my head around editing!!) so I might find it tricky to know what's worth recommending - is this something you might be able to help me with to define a scope on in a similar way to the editing scope? At least then we have a yardstick to refer to when considering what we want to include in the results, versus what we list in the 'Also Trialled'.

@fenlander - I do intend at some point to go back over the candidates that had audio problems to see if subsequent Codec updates might have fixed any of them - I can't recall which one but there was something we tried that was muted until a Codec update so maybe that's changed the outlook for some of the others. I still want to get my head around AVIDemux - it looks like it should be a good solution (for SD at least) apart from that Audio delay - I'm sure there must be a way around that if I try hard enough.

As for the remuxing to MP4 - it's not something I've delved into as I'm not so concerned with space (not yet at least) but perhaps that's more input for the scope on the Converter section - is it just about saving space or where is the meeting point between size and quality (no jokes gentlemen please!!)
 
I've just noticed this in the description for Splash Player PRO EX:

"Fast and easy cutting and merging of HD videos! (*)
Splash PRO EX advanced exporting view allows you to convert multiple HD clips simply and fast. You can also create HD video compilations from multiple source clips from which you can remove unwanted parts.
(*) This feature will be available soon in free Splash PRO EX update."

No timescales. Sounds interesting. PRO EX is a $10 upgrade from PRO or $25 to buy with a current special offer.
 
Funny enough, I have Splash Player Pro EX, but have never used the convert functionality!

Just converted an HD Space Shuttle recording (.ts) to an MP4 no problem. No editing, obviously, but converted OK.
 
fenlander said:
I've just noticed this in the description for Splash Player PRO EX:
"Fast and easy cutting and merging of HD videos! (*)
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That sounds promising - especially for only $25 if the price holds.

@wallace - given that you have access to this version (and hopefully the updated stuff when it arrives) we'd be interested in a review of the editing functionality if poss.
 
No problem, when it appears, I will test it and let you know. However, Mirillis, aren't know for their speed and agility!
 
af123 said:
I think http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/mod-on-box-video-editing.709/ is probably the easiest option : )
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Hell yes!! I was busy with parties and domestic grade explosives at the weekend so only had a quick play with this but it certainly does the job. I have updated the wiki page with this new feature but I'm going to carry on looking at off the box solutions because as I found to my cost SWMBO didn't share my enthusiasm for this great mod, and for some reason that escapes me (Mars and Venus and all that) she didn't find the process of tidying up the Fireman Sam, Roary the Racing Car and Dirtgirlworld collection as exciting as I did :confused: and actually wanted to watch the TV!!!! Girls are weird!! So to preserve peace in casa jonesey (and just as an ongoing hobby) I will continue the search for software solutions.....
 
Oijonesey, what about asking Drutt if his utility can be compiled as a PC application, then you can use that as your PC-based application?

What about it, Steve. Can this be a PC application, or does it require stuff unique to the Humax?
 
Trevor Jasper said:
What about it, Steve. Can this be a PC application, or does it require stuff unique to the Humax?
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It can and is, and I can make it available if people want it, but its just a command line tool, and you have to know in advance what frame ranges you want to cut (or have pre-bookmarked). The only "unique to the Humax" stuff it needs are the *.hmt and *.nts files from the recording (as will as the *.ts of course) In some ways though its just as easy to telnet on to the humax and run it directly on there, and that shoulnd't interupt SWMBO's viewing...
 
fenlander said:
Awaiting HD with bated breath....
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Made a little progress with this last night (thanks to an HD recording from Chris as I don't have HD yet). At least proved in principle that I can cut up a HD .ts at I-frame boundaries and the bits of it still play, though not yet with a rebuilt .nts to allow ff/rw - that bit didn't "just work"...
 
Drutt said:
It can and is, and I can make it available if people want it, but its just a command line tool, and you have to know in advance what frame ranges you want to cut (or have pre-bookmarked). The only "unique to the Humax" stuff it needs are the *.hmt and *.nts files from the recording (as will as the *.ts of course) In some ways though its just as easy to telnet on to the humax and run it directly on there, and that shoulnd't interupt SWMBO's viewing...
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This sounds interesting - so if i'm understanding this I can use a network player to watch the files and get the frame numbers for all the from/to points , then I could string them all into a command on telnet and not have to copy anything off the box? That would save a lot of copying time :-) Does anyone happen to know a player that both streams off the box AND gives a frame number display that I can use in nicesplice?
 
Well, VideoRedo does (it's an option on the View menu). So you could use an evaluation copy of VideoRedo H264. After the evaluation period it will only save 5 minutes of video - but then, you won't be saving with it anyway, just using its editor to get the frame numbers.

No, come to think of it, that won't work. You need to access the files straight off the box, and they'll need to go via the DLNA server to get decrypted. You could probably do it by going via the virtual disk and Samba, assuming the frame numbers are the same in the encrypted/decrypted versions. Clunky, though.

EDIT: I just remembered decrypt-in-place. If you're using this, it should make the virtual disk unnecessary. I must try to keep up.
 
That plan should work - if you use some software that shows the exact time rather than frame, it is easy to convert - just multiply by 25 (or 30 for HD when it is working). I'll add support for putting in the cut points in seconds sometime to make it even easier...
 
Drutt said:
That plan should work - if you use some software that shows the exact time rather than frame, it is easy to convert - just multiply by 25 (or 30 for HD when it is working). I'll add support for putting in the cut points in seconds sometime to make it even easier...
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Why 30 for HD ?

Editors normally use HH:MM:SS:FF Hours minutes seconds and frames. So the exact frame would be (HH*3600*25) + (MM*60*25) + (SS*25) + FF.
 
Oh blimey that looks like proper maths - not my strong point as proved in the op when I couldn't even convert the $ price of vrd correctly!!!
 
grahamlthompson said:
Why 30 for HD ?
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I was wrong with 30 - it initially looked like that, but on closer inspection the test file I had had a mixture of 50fps and 25fps making the average close to 30. Made it a bit of a nightmare getting HD support working for the new version of nicespice but it should be there now in version 1.1. To make things easier I also changed the -cut on the command line to work in tenths of a second, and moved the old functionality to -cutframes.

Steve
 
As I've noted over in the 'on-box editing' thread, using Drutt's nicesplice to edit out the unwanted bits of programmes, especially the channel lead-in at the beginning of the file, solves most of the problems noted here with respect to media players. A file that has been cleaned up with nicesplice (and decrypted) will play happily on Splash, VLC, Pot Player, Windows Media Player, etc. Although I haven't yet tested, I'm expecting that problems encountered when trying to transcode files (to mkv, mp4, etc.) will also be resolved.

This is only a solution if you've installed the customised firmware - and a damn good reason for doing so!
 
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