Remote control definitions file anywhere?

[Mjolinor]

I have tried searching on the box and searching the forum but nothing.

Is there any way to assign a button to do a specific task.

This subtitle problem is a killer for me. The best solution I can find is to set skip forward and backward to 30 seconds to force resync of the sub titles. I would like to assign one of the buttons I do not use to do back then forward with one press but cannot work out if it is possible.

 

[MymsMan]

See https://wiki.hummy.tv/wiki/WebIf_Remote_Controller

 

[Mjolinor]

OK, that worked as far as changing what a button does. I never got the web interface remote to work and never bothered but apparently you have to set the correct mode (mode 6 in my case) in order for the thing to work at all. That explains why "swap list & info" did not work.

How do I make the button on the physical remote do two commands, fwd and back or back and fwd. I can record a macro on the remote page that works fine. Can I assign that macro to a physical button?

 

[MymsMan]

There is an example on the wiki page

Edit /mod/boot/ir3.map
something like
4b:67,66: PORTAL -> fwd back
should assign fwd/back to the redundant Portal button (nb the words are commentary - it is the hex code that does the work 4b:67,66:
You may need to reboot before it takes effect

 

[Mjolinor]

That worked, cheers. Pity I can't set it to 15 seconds forward then back and still have 15 seconds back and 1 minute forward in the skip settings but it is a solution. I shall try it for a bit now, I really was at the throwing it out fo the window point with these subtitles. I find it hard to believe that they never fixed it, it can't be that much of a problem. It is fine on live TV but the minute you press pause or play a recording it's off in the ether somewhere even though it is correct in the mpeg file (.TS file)

4d:66,66,67:SYNC is how I have it at the moment with the skip set to 15 back and 30 forward in the settings menu.

Next question. Where is the "/media" definition for tinyftp so I can set it to "/". It is really baking my noodle using vi, I haven't used it for 20 years.

Stuff like this is a lot easier if I can FTP into the file system.

 

[prpr]

I never got the web interface remote to work and never bothered but apparently you have to set the correct mode (mode 6 in my case) in order for the thing to work at all.

It's not exactly hard to do.

I find it hard to believe that they never fixed it, it can't be that much of a problem.

Humax were great at fixing one thing and breaking another. They really triumphed with the final version of the HD firmware, which was essentially unusable.

Next question. Where is the "/media" definition for tinyftp so I can set it to "/".

It's in the binary. You can't realistically modify it. Use betaftpd instead.

It is really baking my noodle using vi, I haven't used it for 20 years.

Strewth, use nano instead.

Stuff like this is a lot easier if I can FTP into the file system.

What's wrong with Telnet or SSH or Webshell and then nano?

 

[Mjolinor]

No, it is not hard but it is not intuitive that the web remote needs matching to the physical remote and up to now I did not need it to work. Once I did I sorted it.

It is depressing that the T2100 UI is perfect but models newer than that are back to the old Humax way instead of copying the Youview versions.

I have never used Nano but spent half my working life using Vi, I am just very rusty with it. Thankfully it came back pretty quickly.

With telnet there is a much higher chance of doing something wrong. I would prefer to FTP whatever files I needed off the box before making any changes. Doing things over Telnet is also handicapped by the Linux version on the box and lots of utilities that I am used to on the command line not being there.

 

[Owen Smith]

It is depressing that the T2100 UI is perfect but models newer than that are back to the old Humax way instead of copying the Youview versions.

Each to his own, personally I hate the Youview UI with a passion. No folders for series recordings is utter madness, which seems to have infected a lot of subsequent products.

The HDR Fox T2 is far from perfect, but it comes the closest for me especially with the custom firmware.

 

[Mjolinor]

The Youview box, both Huawei and Humax, does have directories for series. I don't think you have any control over it, the box just makes a folder and sticks files in it automatically. It usually uses one directory per series so you can end up with a lot of directories if you record something like The Simpsons.

I agree with the "not perfect" description but what makes it so poor is that they have "perfect" spread across a variety of boxes. They should take this custom firmware and use it with the Youview hardware. That would be a perfect box for me.

 

[Owen Smith]

The Youview box, both Huawei and Humax, does have directories for series. I don't think you have any control over it, the box just makes a folder and sticks files in it automatically. It usually uses one directory per series so you can end up with a lot of directories if you record something like The Simpsons.

I had a Humax DTR-1000T YouView box indeed I was one of the triallists, and that did not create folders for series recordings it just produced a great long list of all your recordings. I have been told, clearly incorrectly, that all YouView boxes work that way to this day. I've certainly seen other products that work that way. This caused me to never consider going anywhere near YouView again. I'm unlikely to relent now given the lack of custom firmware for them.

 

[MymsMan]

It is really baking my noodle using vi, I haven't used it for 20 years.

Also the editor on the the webif diagnostic pages is very usable for simple changes like this.

You can also mount your humax disk on your PC using SMB or NFS and then use any text editor. I use VS Code as my code editor these days

 

[prpr]

it is not intuitive that the web remote needs matching to the physical remote

I think it's perfectly intuitive.

I have never used Nano but spent half my working life using Vi

So was your productivity good with it and if so why did you stop using it? And in preference for what?

With telnet there is a much higher chance of doing something wrong. I would prefer to FTP whatever files I needed off the box before making any changes. Doing things over Telnet is also handicapped by the Linux version on the box and lots of utilities that I am used to on the command line not being there.

So what's missing that you would want to use (for simple editing of a text file)? I'm intrigued.
And then you say you want to use some archaic FTP protocol and more cumbersome method to edit a file (get/edit/put)?
But you don't want to edit on the box itself even though you sound like you are well used to using Linux systems?
Sounds like a whole load of contradictions.

the editor on the the webif diagnostic pages is very usable for simple changes like this.

Absolutely.

 

[Black Hole]

@Mjolinor: you seem to be new on the block, jumping in head first and moaning about this and that, without taking cognisance that what we can or can't do in the CF is circumscribed by the limitations of access to hardware functions or that it has taken 15 years to get to where we are now. Things are the way they are for a reason, even if you don't know what the reason is.

https://hummy.tv/forum/threads/ir-web-based-remote-control.2437/

https://hummy.tv/forum/threads/quick-start-guide.1301/ (particularly the FAQ)

https://hummy.tv/forum/threads/newbies-guide-to-the-hummy-tv-forum.6114/

there are two methods of conducting a forum search:

Native - using the search box near the top right of the forum page. This is useful for being able to restrict the search to only a specific section and/or topic titles rather than the full post text. Searching for a keyword within just the title of a topic will result in fewer hits, but the hits are more likely to be relevant. The native search refuses to search for strings of three letters or fewer, as a blanket ban on words such as "the", which would score a huge number of hits. It's a blunt instrument, but we're stuck with it.

External - using your favourite search engine. For example: a Google search can be restricted to search results from the forum by prefixing the search term(s) with "site:hummy.tv/forum", eg site:hummy.tv/forum newbies guide. It would be difficult to restrict searches to topic titles this way, so the native search still has its uses, but the results filtering is much better and there is no restriction against three-letter search terms.

 

[Mjolinor]

OK, thanks for the help so far. I will not bother asking anything again, I do not need the hostility.

It is only intuitive if you know where the web remote inserts the data into the box. I would not expect it to be before the IR command is processed. I am sure that if I knew more then I would not have failed to get it working. As I did not need it I did not try to get it working. When I did need it I got it working.

I stopped using Vi because I retired twenty years ago and rarely have any need for a remote command line. I much prefer not to disturb the device I am editing until I am sure that any software I have written is as I want it to be before putting it back on the box. This method has always served me well ever since I stopped using anything but Linux in the mid 1990s. This method also allows for you to update as many as you want once a file is sorted. Editing a file on the box 200 times is not productive.

There is nothing missing that I would want to use generally, there are ways round most of it because it is Linux based. I was only in there yesterday for a short time, lshw is not there neither is cfdisk. Like any OS you learn what you need and when those things are not available you find an alternative but that adds significant time to achieving what you are trying to achieve when you need to find other ways of doing stuff.

My final solution, built yesterday was to catch the skip signals on an oscilloscope then programme an ESP8266 to drive an IR LED so I have a small device plugged into a USB charger with a single button on that sends the commands over IR.

Enjoy your forum. I am out of here.

 

[Owen Smith]

It is only intuitive if you know where the web remote inserts the data into the box. I would not expect it to be before the IR command is processed.

There's no other way, we don't get to re-compile the Humax firmware on the box.