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jack616

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Can anyone recommend a decent remote for the HDR-Fox T2
I have one cheap one here but its hard work (no OPT button)
None of them seem able to switch codes that I can find.
I'd rather not pay the Humax price ( I'd prefer the asda price !)
but need the channel swap facility.
thanks
 
Black Hole said:
...but I don't think you'll find any non-OEM handset able to change control channels.
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I haven't found one. Best I could do is a generic one (eg. One for All) with learning facilities (that is you press a key on the old remote and record the result on the new one). But if your Opt button doesn't work on the original remote you can't teach a new remote the code. Not forgetting the learning can be a bit temperamental.
 
jack616 said:
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None of them seem able to switch codes that I can find.
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What do you mean by that?
jack616 said:
I'd rather not pay the Humax price ( I'd prefer the asda price !)
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I assume - low cost replacement. Best I can think of is a used one from an auction site - but quality varies.
jack616 said:
..but need the channel swap facility.
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Do you mean the channel+, channel-, and numeric buttons or something else?

If you have a one-for-all universal remote that controls multiple devices, you can use the info from
sceptic

Post in thread 'URC-7960'

Sedgehog said:
Hi Ron, could you or anyone else tell me the code you used to program your URC-7960 for the Fox T2 please?

I've tried all the codes in the instructions but none of them completely cover all the buttons of the T2 remote. For example, I can't find a code which gives me a button for the Media screen
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I have a URC-7962, but I assume this should work for a 7960 as well. One for All sent me the following:-

To program the required functions onto your One For All, please follow the procedure below.

1. Using the left or right arrow select the relevant device key
2. Hold the Magic key...
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I was able to assign opt+ (00423) to almost any other key on a URC 11-1280 (using 'setup' instead of 'magic' and the correct device key). (Eg Amazon are currently selling the URC 1240 for under £10, may be less on eBay.)
 
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Thanks for all the feedback - and sorry for not picking a better place to ask
(it was a spurr of the moment question)
I can't use my phone - I don't use those things.

You're right BH - I couldn't find one capable of channel change.
I'm suprised because its not hard to do - I've done one in a PIC chip
myself - I still have it somewhere - the learning code was a bit tricky in
places but once I'd worked out how to do my very odd air conditioners'
signals on a learn cycle it would do pretty much anything -
If I can do it just using a bit of C and a picoscope I think
the chinese have fallen down a bit there... A trend I seem to be picking
up with modern tech - things have been going downhill for some years
I think.

I do have an older 'one-for-all' but I couldn't ever get it to work on the HDR
Maybe a newer couple of those is my best answer.
 
Thanks bottletop - interesting idea and certainly worth considering.
Reading the link...
"However in some cases the connector may be mislabeled." ...
not a problem but you have to smile sometimes....
 
jack616 said:
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I do have an older 'one-for-all' but I couldn't ever get it to work on the HDR
Maybe a newer couple of those is my best answer.
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What is the exact model of your older one-for-all? (I.e. What's on the sticker inside the battery compartment? It may be something like URC-7711 R02.)
 
I got a second one last month because it was easier than daily hunting over the house for where other household members had "hidden" it (and for a spare just in case).

Unless you want a science project (sounds like you might 😉 ), by far the quickest and easiest is to search ebay for "humax RM-F04 genuine" (don't get anything called "replacement" as you know, not all the programming features will work), check the photo exactly matches yours, should be no more than £10, they are still available.

For pairing codes and how to apply them, search for "UM_HDRFOXT2_200GB_11-0208.pdf" to find the online copy of the manual that has the comprehensive list (assuming you get a MDB 1.3 label in the battery compartment - both mine are, see above referenced thread about that).
 
jack616 said:
Can anyone recommend a decent remote for the HDR-Fox T2
I have one cheap one here but its hard work (no OPT button)
None of them seem able to switch codes that I can find.
I'd rather not pay the Humax price ( I'd prefer the asda price !)
but need the channel swap facility.
thanks
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I hope it's OK to post a link to an eBay item - I bought this a couple of weeks ago (you've reminded me I haven't done feedback yet!), it hasn't got the HUMAX name above RM-F04 but otherwise I can't tell the difference between it and the Humax original - and Opt button is definitely functional.

Despite the size given in the description, it seems the same as the original to me.

www.ebay.co.uk

HUMAX RM F04 Replacement Remote Control for HDR-Fox T2 Freeview | eBay UK

HUMAX RM F04 Replacement Remote Control for HDR-Fox T2 Freeview Features: brand new and RM‑F04 remote control HDR-Fox T2 Freeview 500GB &1TB No programming required. Quick response, no need to wait. Small size, easy to hold and use. Battery not included！ Specifications: Size...
www.ebay.co.uk

(I've bought one of those things you pry open remotes with but am scared to bite the bullet - there's quite a collection of remotes here to be attacked!)
 
jack616 said:
Thanks clemenzina but I think you will find you can't change the IR code on those either.
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Sorry, Jack, I didn't test that. I just had a look and ---0 comes up on the screen - I was able to enter a "1" to replace the zero but didn't dare go any further - it soon changed itself back to zero. I've written to seller to ask if it should have the function.
 
@clemenzina Hi, the instructions for changing the IR code are here, zero should not come up as only 1-6 are valid, so you may be looking at the wrong setting. Does pressing and holding zero & OK at the same time for many seconds bring a message up on the screen and switch on the PVR LED on the remote? Don't panic if it does - don't touch the remote for 15 seconds and the mode will cancel... Also, are you able to program in any of your TV/Audio/DVD models to use it as an all-in-one remote (see my previous post if you need to find instructions, this was my main reason for saying get "genuine" not "replacement" as I do use it to control TV & Audio as well, but maybe this one can do that)?
 
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Yes, I was confused by that too, but I held off posting because I'm not near a HDR-FOX to test. The "---0" on-screen sounds like trying to change LCN (TV channel) to me, not the response you would expect from the remote control mode change at all. This might be expected if the RC does not implement the 0 + OK mode change operation.
 
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@Robobunny
I did write to the seller and was most dissatisfied with his response - "Please read the description" kinda thing.

I do not use my Humax remote for any other device and only have one HDR-Fox T2 on the go at the moment - the other is mouldering, waiting for a repair that will never take place, how I wish my thousands of pounds on short-lived PVRs (and don't even mention laptops) could be recouped.

The reason I got this remote under discussion was that the back button (frequently used for navigating EPG and fast-rewinding recordings) was not responding reliably, and this eBay one looked better than the very-cheapo ones so I went for it. I'm sorry to have given you false hope 😟
 
jack616 said:
I have one cheap one here but its hard work (no OPT button)
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On your remote where there is not a direct OPT+ button is there any other button that is recognised by the HDR-FOX T2 but you never use? E.g. a "TV Portal" button?

You have posted your query in the custom firmware forum. If you do have the custom firmware installed then you can change the HDR-FOX T2 to respond to that redundant button as if it were an OPT+ button.

It is setup via the IR package. See https://wiki.hummy.tv/wiki/WebIf_Remote_Controller

In the remap file, if it was the "TV Portal" button that you wanted to change, then change the following text:
Code: 
4b:62:PORTAL

to:
Code: 
4b:42:PORTAL is now OPT+
 
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Black Hole said:
The TV Portal button is now as useful as a chocolate fireguard, so...
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I remapped Portal as 'skip to next bookmark' to make it easier to skip the ad-breaks but OPT would be a good alternative.

If you are trying to remap some other remote for use with a humax and are not sure what code a button is producing you can use DIAG (via command line or diagnostics web page;
  • ir3/debugon = Enable remote control input to be logged in the humaxtv.log
  • ir3/debugoff = disable remote control input being logged in the humaxtv.log
 
As an aside, the item description appears to say that the item is a direct RM F04 replacement. If that is really so, definitely raise a "not as described" dispute, if only to keep sellers straight, since
...but I don't think you'll find any non-OEM handset able to change control channels.
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They should say that the product only supports the default control channel and so is not a full replacement: for instance, if you have more than one device that must be controlled in the same area.
 
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