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Owen Smith said:
I used my S-VHS VCR a few months ago to watch an old tape and check the Teletext on there (which S-VHS has the bandwidth to record). Tape and VCR are both fine.
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If I was really lucky I used to get the occasional Teletext page recovered from a standard VHS recording. Most of the time it was just gibberish.
Most of the VHS contents I "digitally remastered" years ago or have obtained digital copies elsewhere. Must see if there are any gems left on the remaining tapes. (Round tuit required)
 
You can still use a VCR to act as a UHF modulator to pass-through a SCART signal and convert it to an RF output to feed an old TV or maybe an old-style domestic/hotel TV distribution system.

(depending on the model)
 
EEPhil said:
If I was really lucky I used to get the occasional Teletext page recovered from a standard VHS recording. Most of the time it was just gibberish.
Most of the VHS contents I "digitally remastered" years ago or have obtained digital copies elsewhere. Must see if there are any gems left on the remaining tapes. (Round tuit required)
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There are people now using stacking of multiple fields and statistical analysis to recover teletext from old VHS tapes in an effort to preserve it given none of the broadcasters thought it worth preserving.
 
Any digital hoarders out there with old pre-2012 DVB recordings? They may have the teletext stream on it. VLC player will decode the teletext.
 
HugeMaximum said:
Any digital hoarders out there with old pre-2012 DVB recordings? They may have the teletext stream on it. VLC player will decode the teletext.
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Interesting thought. However that would require the hoarding of the original recording. I edited all the adverts out of commercial channel recordings and, because I don't use Accurate Recording, trimmed BBC ones. In doing so Ive been left with just video and audio streams. Can't imagine that any original recordings from before 2012 survive.
 
HugeMaximum said:
Any digital hoarders out there with old pre-2012 DVB recordings? They may have the teletext stream on it. VLC player will decode the teletext.
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I've got one recording from BBC Two from 2009. It's got all sorts of PIDs in it that I wasn't expecting (including the NIT and EIT, which is interesting for remembering how things were in simpler times) and haven't yet got round to looking at them all (it doesn't help that they've been re-mapped from the originals).
How did it work pre-2012 then and what happened at that point?
 
prpr said:
How did it work pre-2012 then and what happened at that point?
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I had a Hauppauge Win-TV card in my PC waaay back. From memory, the WinTV software had a teletext viewer built-in - so teletext was being broadcast embedded in the digital DVB-T stream. This was during the digital transmission transition period, so I think they initially had just embedded the whole teletext stream. Ceefax was 'turned off' in 2012, and I think they were the last broadcaster to turn it off.
But looking at my oldest digital broadcast recording (October 2021) off my behemoth disk, playing it in VLC Player shows an interesting list when right-clicking the playing video > Subtitles > Sub Track...
  • DVB subtitles - [English]
  • Teletext subtitles - [English]
  • Teletext - [English]
The teletext subtitles option uses page 888!
 
I also remember Teletext on a Hauppauge Win TV USB device. That was on analogue channels and vanished when they did.
 
Owen Smith said:
How? I didn't think DVB included the video blanking interval scan lines that teletext was transmitted in?
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They piped the teletext as part of the M2TS multiplex, not in the video part itself - like teletext subtitles here...
 

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prpr said:
It's a manager that's a bit useless and doesn't do any managing, just tells you things when you ask it (now that sounds awfully like most of the people I used to have to put up with).
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:rolling:
Like most managers I've known. Trouble is, they have all the power. Often what they tell you doesn't match the truth. At least most computer based managers don't tell bare-faced lies. Well, not all the time.
 
everthewatcher said:
Seems the US deaf 'community' have come up with an ASL sign for Trump:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGfYLJp1NGA
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Old News. The video says 9 years ago. I remember seeing mention of it on one of the comedy panel shows*- possibly Ed Byrne on a repeat of the original Mock the Week, so that would be pre-2022 (although my recollection of who and where may be wrong)..

* Edit: I'm reasonably sure it was Ed Byrne, but it might have been on QI or HIGNFY.
 
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EEPhil said:
Old News. The video says 9 years ago. I remember seeing mention of it on one of the comedy panel shows - possibly Ed Byrne on a repeat of the original Mock the Week, so that would be pre-2022 (although my recollection of who and where may be wrong)..
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Ah. It popped up in a forum and I went looking for a video - didn't check the date.
 
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