Driving and Roads

Black Hole

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Been there, done that (not an NT badge in my instance). It's very difficult retrieving everything from a written-off car.

Even worse when I had a car stolen (and found burnt out). Years later I was still thinking "whatever happened to...".
 
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Mike0001

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True, and I forgot to look in the central armrest box too, but I did get my wife's glasses back, albeit damaged, which will be another £360 to claim against the other party.

The car was still under warranty, but I doubt if they will cover this.:confused:
 
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Mike0001

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Toyota auris hybrid ts. It is in the police pound so the Focus may be fine.

I am getting fed up with my insurance company. Several times they have recorded details incorrectly. I have been told first that I was at fault because the other road had priority, agent had made a mistake and admitted it. Then another agent said virtually the same before backing down again. A lawyer then contacted me reading their reports and had the other car crashing into the side of ours.

Avoid John Lewis insurance, they are just brokers. JL even gave me the wrong number to phone in their documentation, worse, a number for the wrong insurance firm.

This is not inspiring confidence as they have not even requested the police incident report and had the damage down as only to the bumper.
 
Avoid John Lewis insurance, they are just brokers. JL even gave me the wrong number to phone in their documentation, worse, a number for the wrong insurance firm.
I'm not greatly impressed with John Lewis. I bought this laptop from there and they recorded the extended warranty as a freezer and made some comment about food storage. When there was a problem with the hard disk within the warranty they wanted to take it away for a month or more. I complained and the service engineer :rolling: tried to open the hard disk bay with a penknife. He took it away for a few days, tried to fit a disk half the original size and was upset when I wouldn't accept it. When it did come back, the computer had been scratched. Also, when I phoned JL they told me to phone HP instead. HP told me to b****r off. So back to JL. So, "I feel your pain!" (with JL insurance, not with the crash).
 

prpr

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Never, ever buy extended warranty. Here endeth today's lesson.

(I had to complain about a foreign body in something I bought from Tesco. The letter I eventually got back made reference to Orange Juice which was nothing like the original product - and I stood there while the CS droid typed it in to the computer, so how can it go so wrong? I would've complained again, but a) they didn't include any sane contact details on the letter and b) I couldn't be arsed with them any more.)
 
Toyota auris hybrid ts. It is in the police pound so the Focus may be fine.
Surprised you were allowed to photograph it. I wasn't allowed to photograph mine when it was in a secure yard - next time I'll have a dash cam when I go to unload a car from such a place. The yard our car ended up at was a privately owned one, but many vehicles there were under police impound from accidents.

The dogs will need some comforting for a while before they will want to get in a vehicle again. At least you have all survived with minimal serious injury. It is all the faffing around that goes with it, finding another vehicle with what the Insurance are prepared to pay out, and what additional money you can put in to get yourself back to a similar state of vehicle that is a major pain.

My wife wrote off our Mk4 Mondeo - well some other clown was at fault, she was just driving our car at the time. Wife was travelling from Finmere towards Bicester, road was straightish at point of accident. From wifes perspective, she was travelling at speed limit on cruise control, Landrover Discovery coming the other way wanted to turn across her path into a side road, was slowing as he approached the intersection to allow her to transit it, and he got hit from behind by an Alfa Romeo. The impact slewed the Alfa sideways into the path of my wife as she was coming through, and she hit it square on in the side of the Alfa which in turn slewed it back onto the water table on his side of the road, compressed the front of the Mondeo to about half its length, and slewed my wife off into the trees on her side of the road. Guy driving Discovery manages to stop his vehicle and gets out to try and find out why he suddenly got a shunt up the back end to discover a badly damaged Alfa in the ditch behind him with extensive side damage and our car in the trees opposite with hazards flashing, Guy had to be cut out Alfa.

He tried to fight a charge of Dangerous driving causing serious injury, and plead it down to a lower charge, but the PPS was having none of it. They reckoned they had 15 witnesses (including the two drivers he hit) and he did eventually plead guilty to the charge once it came to court. I had the last laugh (although quietly, as I attended court to see him sentenced) as the accident happened in March, but because of his fighting the charge it didn't reach court until November. One of the parts of the sentence was having to wear a ankle bracelet for 2 months of curfew - which ended up being right across the Christmas/New Year period. He also had to pay a victim surcharge of around £400 within a month (unfortunately the type of incident didn't mean we could apply for victim compensation), a couple of years of driving ban, and a couple of other items I can't recall.

Wife ended up with significant bruises from the seat belt, and sprain in her left foot. Luckily because she was using cruise control her right foot was tucked backed and didn't suffer damage. But I was impressed with how the car took the shunt, despite the way the front was damaged you could still open all the doors, so the cabin structure was almost straight. The windscreen was broken and the dash pushed out of place, and the drivers door rubbed on the rear door, but the crumple zone had done its job.
 
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Mike0001

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Amazing story. Did your wife get this fractured sternum we both got? Very painful when you cough!

The police were going to charge the woman who hit us with driving without due care and attention, and I think they did, as her insurance has accepted liability. I was tempted to get a dummy quote for insuring the same type of car with a double writeoff in her history, and a conviction. The premium and excess will be huge.

The dogs seem fine, and ok with our second small Yaris, though they can't get into the boot by themselves and they have far less space. Also, the male used to sit at the back looking out but is now too short to see in this car. We always joked that he was driving, or thought he was.

You are right about the hassle, endless phone interviews and letters and still no replacement car even though the cash came through last Monday because we can't find what we want. We are going to go back to just one car.

Yes, the crash systems do a good job at protecting passengers by sacrificing the car, in our case the front foot of it.

I learnt to drive at 25, and 45 years later this is my first accident, though cars I have had have been damaged before when I was not in them. One time, I had agreed to trade in a car and someone smashed into its rear in a very small supermarket carpark. Another time, a 3 month old car parked in a cul de sac had its side smashed in by someone reversing into it at night. It was the days of local bobbies, and I happened to have parked exactly where one of those usually parked his car. I still can't believe how quickly he found the culprit.
 
Amazing story. Did your wife get this fractured sternum we both got? Very painful when you cough!
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Yes, the crash systems do a good job at protecting passengers by sacrificing the car, in our case the front foot of it.
No, she didn't have damage to her sternum, just the ankle and stomach. I couldn't believe how many airbags there were in the car, I think we counted seven of them as there were ones in both fron foot wells as well as the dash and steering wheel.

The biggest problem was we believe that it brought on a major medical condition that required a specialist operation and had her off work for 5 months, but there was no way of proving the accident as causal, and the doctors said they didn't believe it was causal for her later condition.

I learnt to drive at 25, and 45 years later this is my first accident, though cars I have had have been damaged before when I was not in them. One time, I had agreed to trade in a car and someone smashed into its rear in a very small supermarket carpark. Another time, a 3 month old car parked in a cul de sac had its side smashed in by someone reversing into it at night. It was the days of local bobbies, and I happened to have parked exactly where one of those usually parked his car. I still can't believe how quickly he found the culprit.
haha, amazing how the possibility of it happening to them makes them get a move on.
 
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Not legally enforceable. Speed limit is 30mph then!
Even better, one of those speed trap display thingumies set at 20mph in a 30mph zone - with the advisory sign - telling everyone legally travelling between 20 and 30 mph to slow down. Probably down to the County Council trying to put a 20 mph limit on an "A" road and being refused permission (along with cycle lanes and reduced speed limits from 60/40 to 30 that were allowed).
 

prpr

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I passed one very similar this morning in W.B. Probably not the same one given the look of the background, but I suspect not very far away.
The b@5t@rd5 have set those automated speed readout thingies to flash amber tell you to slow down when it's perfectly OK as well.
Time to get a high vis. jacket, a pot of grey paint and a small set of steps and go out after dark with a brush.

There was a report from Bath last week that the introduction of 20 zones had put the accident rate up, but the council hadn't got the money to remove all these damned signs etc. Funny how they found the money to waste in the first place to introduce them.
 

Black Hole

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I'm mystified why there are no longer signs at the approach to motorways declaring the restrictions. Hell, there are motorway approaches around here that don't even advise the change of speed limit.
Saves money.

You are supposed to know the national speed limit and restrictions on the various roads and for your type of vehicle. You are expected to recognise when the spacing of lamp posts means that the speed limit is 30 mph in a built up area. Why waste money putting signs up and maintaining them?:D
Money was no object when they were imposing those ridiculous 20mph zones everywhere round here. There are probably more 20 signs than 30 signs now. Then councils are bleating poverty at every opportunity. But we're drifting on to the Driving and Roads thread again...
"Supposed to know" may be the intention, but many don't (or have forgotten, or think they might get away with it... which they probably will with the current state of policing).
 

Black Hole

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There was a report from Bath last week that the introduction of 20 zones had put the accident rate up, but the council hadn't got the money to remove all these damned signs etc. Funny how they found the money to waste in the first place to introduce them.
Well, around Weston Village (Bath) they've been painting cycle logos on the road and dedicating half of it for those buggers where there's hardly room for cars to pass anyway. Since when did cyclists pay towards the provision and upkeep of roads (general taxation notwithstanding)?
 
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RobH1

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Re prpr's rant on 20 mph speed limit signs, I've just spent a few days in Birkdale/Southport and the lampposts there are festooned with them. No one takes any notice, even the local buses travel at 30. Sefton Council are cash strapped. :confused:
On the busy coastal road, where there's a chance of reaching the maximum 50 mph, a cyclist held up hundreds of yards of traffic because he couldn't be bothered using the dedicated (well surfaced) cycle path which is separated from the carriageway for their safety, grrr! :mad:
 
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