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Failing tuner?
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Trev
The Dumb One
Yes it will. You can also record 2progs from two different MUXs and watch a third prog as long as it is on one of the two MUXs being recorded.
This thread is now getting confusing with two different problems being posted.
Can a mod split out Lefteris' posts and answers into a separate thread?
This thread is now getting confusing with two different problems being posted.
Can a mod split out Lefteris' posts and answers into a separate thread?
prpr
Well-Known Member
The problem is obviously in the distribution system in the flats not your equipment. I'm not surprised as it's probably been bodged to solve the COM7/8 mux. move problem.
You are in the unfortunate position of having to pay for a communal system with no effective say in how it is managed. You need someone competent with the correct test gear and with access to all parts of the system. It is a nightmare. I don't know how you're going to get it fixed.
Thanks prpr
I'm still confused as to how I can get good reception on the COM 7 channels if I am recording another channel?
Is the hummy known to have weaker tuners? I just read the Frequency Change article again and this sentence jumped out:
"It has reduced coverage and is only available on newer Freeview devices."
Is this suggesting that some older devices just won't work with this now?
This problem seems to get worse by the day, I'm now starting to get more breakup on the previously good channels BBC1 HD etc.
I'm still confused as to how I can get good reception on the COM 7 channels if I am recording another channel?
Is the hummy known to have weaker tuners? I just read the Frequency Change article again and this sentence jumped out:
"It has reduced coverage and is only available on newer Freeview devices."
Is this suggesting that some older devices just won't work with this now?
This problem seems to get worse by the day, I'm now starting to get more breakup on the previously good channels BBC1 HD etc.
prpr
Well-Known Member
It's difficult to say. There could be several effects at work here.
Not specifically since the change, no, but it just means you need a DVB-T2 receiver rather than a DVB-T receiver. Which is obviously not a problem for HDR T2s.
Just because your neighbours' feeds are OK doesn't mean yours is. But you need independent measuring kit, as I said before. Relying on one receiver is a difficult sell to get somebody to come out though. And you need to have ruled out your own locally generated interference (leaky HDMI leads and poorly screened RF fly-leads etc.).
tonybonner
Member
If this were the case, might putting a booster between wall socket and T2 improve the situation?
OP never mentioned whether the TV aerial feed is passed through the T2 or direct from socket.
If it's a pass-through and he adds a booster he might need to switch the TV to a direct connection to avoid overloading the signal for the TV.
prpr
Well-Known Member
No. Boosters make the Carrier/Noise margin worse not better. The problem is not a low signal level, based on figures previously supplied.
I if were to speculate wildly, based on almost no information, I'd say this is probably what's been done upstream already rather than fixing the problem (at a guess an out-of-band aerial). It might have solved the problem for some - just long enough for the cowboy to clear off and get paid.
tonybonner
Member
Fair enough!
I've tried a different RF lead, no difference, no admittedly this and the existing lead are both cheap ones. Is it worth trying a better quality one?
Leaky HDMI leads. Ok, sorry for the drip feed again, I didn't think was at all relevant, but I have experienced occasional crashes of the machine since I started using an Amazon Firestick. I believe these are susceptible to HDMI leak, it often crashes. I can try uplugging this to see if it makes any difference and also try a new HDMI cable to connect the hummy, though the one I have been using is good quality and has worked well for years.
Really hope I can solve this without having to get the aerial looked at.
Trev
The Dumb One
If you are going to replace any cables, replace the RF ones not the HDMI first. But before any of that malarky, plug the T2 directly into the aerial socket with nothing else (apart from the TV of course and make sure that the HDMI cable is as far from the aerial cable as is possible.
You still didn't rise to the bait cast in your direction about is the TV aerial fed through the T2?
You still didn't rise to the bait cast in your direction about is the TV aerial fed through the T2?
The T2 is already plugged directly into the aerial socket. The TV connects to the aerial via the T2 (and works ok). Is that what you mean by "fed through the T2"?
I'll try separating the HDMI and RF cables when I'm at home later.
prpr
Well-Known Member
Yes. If it's cheap and white and has plastic plugs on the end then throw it away.
Get (or make) one with proper CT100/WF100 cable with screened (i.e. all metal) plugs. Or use F plugs on the cable with F to Co-ax adapters, which are often easier to make than putting on Co-ax plugs yourself.
It may or may not solve the problem, depending on what/where it is, but it won't make it any worse and will remove one thing from the list.
Well, one of them is black, but yes, the sort you normally get in the box when you buy a new TV/PVR
I've been looking on Amazon, but I can't find references to this cable in any of the descriptions. Can you send me a link to something suitable on Amazon, pref with Prime next day delivery (I'm a member)?
Yes, works fine.
Trev
The Dumb One
Put WF 100 into Amazon search. There are loads of hits. Unfortunately most are for 50m drums.
For short patch leads, WF 65 is OK as well. Thinner and more flexible.
Terminate both ends with F Type connectors (make sure that they are for the right size coax) Like THESE for ct/wf 100 and F to Belling Lee (TV) like THESE. You might find them with Prime
For short patch leads, WF 65 is OK as well. Thinner and more flexible.
Terminate both ends with F Type connectors (make sure that they are for the right size coax) Like THESE for ct/wf 100 and F to Belling Lee (TV) like THESE. You might find them with Prime
prpr
Well-Known Member
I can't, because there is nothing suitable.
You might be better off with this https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Satellite-...-Wf100-2-F-s-Ct100/686825514?iid=220560671081 for £4.75.
Or you can buy a 25m reel from places like Toolstation and Screwfix for roughly £13. Plus plugs of course.
Ah, I put WF100 RF Cable and it came up with lots of cheap looking cables, but no actual mention of "WF100" in the listing!
That one looks like it has cable rather than aerial connectors.
Would rather get a made up lead than make my own, not that handy with wire strippers etc! I only need 2 meters.
Trev
The Dumb One
Most people would associate those (F Type) connectors with satellite TV. But they are the easiest and most reliable to fit (providing you use the right size), as fitting the Belling Lee ones is really a bit 'Heath Robinson', but you then need the adaptors that are in my second link to make a really sound 'proper job' that fits your telly.