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Mike0001 said:
The OSA has been discredited several times when it has been used to prevent politicians from embarrassment. One should always hold in mind that laws are for the benefit of the population, not politicians and security services. However, when politicians have an act they can hide behind whenever they or their minions do wrong, they have no incentive to repeal or modify it.
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That's true, but you fail to recognise that abuses of that nature are inevitable in any system of regulation. You want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Nuff said.
 
No law is perfect and there may be occasions when it should (morally) be ignored/disobeyed or not be applied.

The paranoia after 9/11 has allowed 'grey' men to get away with murder, literally, with impunity for too long. There needs to be oversight of their activities and it seems that on occasions the laws they hide behind must be broken to get some visibility since politicians and civil servants (on both sides of the Atlantic) can't be trusted to do the overseeing on our behalf.
 
Black Hole said:
That's true, but you fail to recognise that abuses of that nature are inevitable in any system of regulation.
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Sweeping generalization. There are degrees of abuse and of regulation. There was no way Snowden could have gone via established channels. Nothing would have come out. Similarly for the collateral murder in Iraq, documented in the leaked video. Someone is spending the rest of their life in prison for donating that to the public. Why? Because its release was embarrassing to the Nation State of the USA, as was the other stuff that WikiLeaks released.

So, is Merkel a terrorist? :p It all relies on that argument. If it is OK to bug her phone, so that the USA can listen in to what she says, then why was it so bad to release all those documents about what US officials were saying behind the backs of other nations in WikiLeaks? It's hypocrisy. We need to demand openness, consistency and honesty from our employees, ie, the government, politicians, diplomats and security services, because, yes, we are the bosses, not them!
 
But YouTube and other video stuff runs just fine and dandy in my IE11. But the original embedded stuff in your post displays and plays fine in Firefox.
 
Magic tricks and dogs:

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I remember doing something like this to our Rough Collie as a puppy. I would wave and cross my hands over his ball lying on the floor, secretly grabbing the ball so it disappeared.​
 
Trev said:
But YouTube and other video stuff runs just fine and dandy in my IE11. But the original embedded stuff in your post displays and plays fine in Firefox.
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These pages crash Internet Explorer on my laptop, Trev. The moment I click a video, it crashes. No problem with Chrome or Firefox, though.
 
I don't get the option to click on the video in IE. I just get two sides of a blank square (sorry, for the purists, a blank rectangle) with like a no entry sign in the top left hand corner
 
4 having someone competent enough to have a back up plan incase the delivery cannot be made

5 calling local supermarkets and buying up bottled water
 
They tried 5.
6. What's wrong with a f***ing tap and a load of paper cups?

Perhaps insufficient cups, like bottles of water in the local supply chain. How many people were taking part anyway? Can't have been more than a handful of thousands at the most I'd have thought.
 
Trev said:
Another of your inaccurate sweeping generalisations?;):D
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Another of your inaccurate sweeping generalizations? :p

It's sad that so many people take democracy so lightly that they elect dictators.
 
prpr said:
They tried 5.
6. What's wrong with a f***ing tap and a load of paper cups?

Perhaps insufficient cups, like bottles of water in the local supply chain. How many people were taking part anyway? Can't have been more than a handful of thousands at the most I'd have thought.
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Just over 5,000. They could have fed them as well with 5 loaves and 2 fish, and turned the water into wine, but that is another story...

I couldn't see why bottled water was essential either, as the water is so good here. But, yes, paper cups would be far cheaper than bottled water.
 
A half-marathon can be run under cool, overcast conditions with no water needed without being injurious to health.
 
So can walking around town for a couple of hours, but it's surprising how many people seem to treat a bottle of water as a fashion accessory.:frantic:
 
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