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Looks like the end is in sight for old DVB kit

prpr said:
It's HD ready, so of course it can as it will have an MPEG4 decoder (but not a DVB-T2 demodulator - that was the con with "Ready").
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That's a category of device I did not know existed. I was aware of HD Ready, but are you sure that means it has an MPEG4 decoder? My understanding was HD Ready just meant 1280x768 or similar screen resolution, ie more than SD but not 1920x1080 and not with DVB-T2. I always understood MPEG4 support went together with DVB-T2 and you either got both or neither.
 
Owen Smith said:
My understanding was HD Ready just meant 1280x768 or similar screen resolution, ie more than SD but not 1920x1080 and not with DVB-T2. I always understood MPEG4 support went together with DVB-T2 and you either got both or neither.
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My HD ready TV shows this banner on channel change:IMG_20250625_074433222_MFNR~2.jpg
 
prpr said:
It's HD ready, so of course it can as it will have an MPEG4 decoder (but not a DVB-T2 demodulator - that was the con with "Ready").
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Nope. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_ready no need for any tuner at all to meet the HD ready spec.

Many EU-wide models had the MP4 codec in DVB-T tuner TVs (such as EEPhil's set). Other makers (e.g. Panasonic) crippled their UK variants in HD Ready and/or full HD screen resolution mode so excluded it. {We had one Panny plasma with DVB-T SD Freeview and DVB-S/S2 HD Freesat inside... I wonder how that would cope

Freeview HD was when the tuner spec for -T2 became mandatory to use that label, after DTG testing, of course. Freeview HD spec still allows any TV screen resolution of course.
 
Shirley a "HD-ready" TV has to have no more than a 1280x720 (but more likely 1920x1080) screen and the ability to display 1280x720 from an HDMI input.
 
Black Hole said:
Shirley a "HD-ready" TV has to have no more than a 1280x720 (but more likely 1920x1080) screen and the ability to display 1280x720 from an HDMI input.
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Most HD-Ready TVs actually had 1280x768 displays. My Arcam DV137 DVD-Audio/Video upscaling player had an option to set 768p as the output video format to get 1:1 pixel display on 768p HD Ready TVs.
 
Black Hole said:
Shirley a "HD-ready" TV has to have no more than a 1280x720 (but more likely 1920x1080) screen and the ability to display 1280x720 from an HDMI input.
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720 rows according to wikipedia for displays... no mention of width pixel count ;)

Freeview HD stbs and pvrs will have 576i outputs for legacy TV displays (at least in the early days, some even doing analogue PAL out via scart or RCA) so pretty much screen resolution agnostic. While no TV maker would be likely to make such a resolution it's not prohibited.

As Owen says most screens were based on the common computer display 1280x768 resolution... with that still being commonplace on smaller screen TVs today.
 
Owen Smith said:
Most HD-Ready TVs actually had 1280x768 displays. My Arcam DV137 DVD-Audio/Video upscaling player had an option to set 768p as the output video format to get 1:1 pixel display on 768p HD Ready TVs.
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According to the current Arcam site the 768P on their DV137 presumed that the aspect ratio was 1366x 768 for 768 TVs.
https://www.arcam.co.uk/product,diva-dv137-dvd-player.htm

One of the restrictions of the HD Ready logo was that the TV needed to be widescreen (16:9). Possibly your "HD-Ready TV" with a "1280x768 display" would not truthfully be certifible to use the "HD Ready" logo?

Rodders53 said:
As Owen says most screens were based on the common computer display 1280x768 resolution... with that still being commonplace on smaller screen TVs today.
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Yes, based on the common computer display 1280x768 resolution, but probably, partially due to the introduction of the HD Ready logo in the UK, morphed into the production of 1366x 768 displays for TVs.
On the Curry's website, they currently list 24 items as "HD Ready". There are a couple of cookoos which do not appear to be best described as "HD Ready", but all the rest are listed as 1366x768. That implies that today 1280x768 resolution is not "commonplace".
 
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Luke said:
According to the current Arcam site the 768P on their DV137 presumed that the aspect ratio was 1366x 768 for 768 TVs.
https://www.arcam.co.uk/product,diva-dv137-dvd-player.htm
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You are right, I mis-remembered. It was 2012 when I put my Arcam DV137 in the loft on getting an Oppo 95. And although my 26" Sony 16:9 TV at the time (also now in the loft) had a 1366 x 768 panel I was never able to get it to display the 768p output from my DV137.
Luke said:
Yes, based on the common computer display 1280x768 resolution, but probably, partially due to the introduction of the HD Ready logo in the UK, morphed into the production of 1366x 768 displays for TVs.
On the Curry's website, they currently list 24 items as "HD Ready". There are a couple of cookoos which do not appear to be best described as "HD Ready", but all the rest are listed as 1366x768. That implies that today 1280x768 resolution is not "commonplace".
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Ignore anything I said about 1280 x 768, that was a memory error. My brain does not have ECC memory.
 
I blame my waning powers and number dyslexia :rolling:and assuming someone else got them right.
Sorry.
The 768 was all to do with computer screens and bulk manufacture, though, I'm reasonably sure. Never mind the width. :dunno:
 
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