prpr
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You've missed the point, which was in the latter part of the post.
What do you think of my mod?
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Owen Smith
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I saw that too, different version of MIPS processor like I said. I thought you were pointing out a script based package might work ported from one box to the other.
prpr
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It's a bit more than that. One is big-endian, the other is little-endian. It's effectively a complete architecture change.
It might, all other things being equal. But all other things aren't equal. If they were, don't folks think the 'port' would've been done and the package put in the repository?
Owen Smith
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Oh wow. Well I wrote code that got compiled for MIPS Magnum workstations back in the late 1990s among many other unix variants, and when I asked "why is the MIPS binary twice the size of the binary for any other processor?" work stopped and we spent the afternoon on a deep dive into the stupidities (as I saw it) of the MIPS architecture at the time. The main issue being up to half the binary ends up being NOPs that the compiler has to put in because the processor had no register score boarding. MIPS thought that would be a performance enhancement, and pretty much proved the opposite. If half the code is NOPs, half of the cache is full of NOPs for a start.
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Andy-in-Ireland
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I thought I would give fan.opk a go anyway and here is the error I got on reading the USB after my attempt. it means zilch to me other than its not indeed compatible with the foxsat HDR320 S2
Install started
Collected errors:
* pkg_hash_fetch_best_installation_candidate: Packages for fan found, but incompatible with the architectures configured
* opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package fan.
Install done
Install started
Collected errors:
* pkg_hash_fetch_best_installation_candidate: Packages for fan found, but incompatible with the architectures configured
* opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package fan.
Install done
prpr
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Really?
Maybe you'll work it out and stop being so...
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Andy-in-Ireland
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so ? - it was still worth a try , I am inquisitive and wanted to try it myself and see what happened - even at the point of thinking i might brick it by trying to load a opk package for a fox T2 on it - I thought at least I would give it a go.
Owen Smith
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No, it wasn't worth a try. Do you try to load Apple Mac drivers on a Windows PC? That's the level of incompatibility here.
Black Hole
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Correct, and it's still going (much to my surprise, because I didn't spend big). Previously I killed them quite quickly. I don't think there is a significant difference in the workload between a HD-FOX and a Foxsat – and I am running it 24/7 with TSR enabled.
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Andy-in-Ireland
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of course its not the same - Apple Mac and Windows are totally 2 different things . A Foxsat and Fox T2 HDR are from the same company (Humax) the insides are nearly technically the same, they both use .opk packages. Why would I not give it a go . your remark seems more crazy than my attempt to try an .opk file from the Fox T2 freeview HDR on the Foxsat S2 freesat HDR
Owen Smith
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But inside the Foxsat and HDR Fox T2 are about as different as an Apple Mac and a Windows PC. Just because they both say Humax on the case and both record TV doesn't make them compatible. Both a Mac and a PC can browse web sites.
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Andy-in-Ireland
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Cant believe I am being drawn into this but they are so similar the Foxsat and Fox T2 boxes and share so many parts and (I think) were manufactured round about the same time I think werent they? - you skipped past the bit where I said they both had package files and that they end in the same extension (.opk) .
A Windows PC uses .exe files and a Mac uses .dmg files or whatever it is (never worked with apple macs but i know they have different extensions) .
OK so i have bot Foxsat HDR and a Fox T2 HDR ... and I have had both apart - from memory , same disk caddy im pretty sure, what looks like same power supply, same'ish looking board but with different mips SOC or whatever its called .
Ok , if the package didnt have a .opk extension of course I wouldnt have tried loading some obsure package extension from the T2 fox freeview HDR to the Foxsat Hdr
Black Hole
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Foxsat predates HDR-FOX by a considerable margin, even if they were on sale concurrently. Foxsat was released 2008 (IIRC), while HDR-FOX was released specifically for the switch-over from analogue to digital terrestrial TV, 2010. They are based on application-specific PVR chips that include processor and hardware processing chains that a commercial PVR requires, and economics plays huge part in the decisions manufacturers make. It would make no sense to saddle the HDR-FOX with the SoC the Foxsat uses, if (most likely) the newer version with much better spec is available more cheaply at the time. Just because it looks similar externally...
prpr
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My kettle and toaster are made by the same company (Russell Hobbs).
Yep, both my devices have heating elements the same.
Yep, both my devices use electricity.
Would you like to try making toast in the kettle? How about boiling water in the toaster?
I'll leave both of those to you while I put a large distance in between. Hopefully you'll do the decent thing and not leave too much mess when you move on.
What difference does that make? It's just a container. Just because soup comes in tin cans doesn't mean baked beans can't. How stupid are you?
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Andy-in-Ireland
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you sound dafter with your replies - you cannot even have a decent conversation and stick to the discussion - what the hell are you bringing up baked beans , toasters and kettles and apple mac and windows PC's under a thread about a Humax PVR - you went right off topic talking about all these irrelevant devices
, i cant take you serious - I dont reckon I would ever take anything you say a serious on here
Black Hole
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prpr can be quite acerbic, and so can I, but I have a suggestion: don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Owen Smith
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Don't worry, I'm a software engineer and we have OCD about these issues. I can see how you might have thought there was a chance they'd be compatible.