Well as this seems to have become the 'scorecard' thread I thought I'd point out that there was me watching for the 20,000th post - apparently looming according to the stats on the front page. So then (based on past experience with every other stat we've tried to watch) I thought I'd better check that against the permalinks for some of the more recent posts only to find we've already passed the post!! This one being the most recent (at time of typing) is counted as post number 20,159. I realise there are lots of deleted posts and posts moved around when we rearranged the threads so I presume the front page count is the net count after all those sorts of adjustments?